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Problem is that with CB on table you have few 2cc targets(being 4 goyf/3CB), Firespout is good against aggro but really bad against TA, Landstill.

I think 5-6 3cc spells is good, also I would like...

Lavamancer was the CounterTop Xantid Swarm for me.I played 2 MD and it wins against merfolks and goblins or get you tempo to not get daze/wasted out of the game.It deals with merfolks(even with 1...

The card is too insane.. it can solve many problems but it can also create a new one.. we need to see how other decks are goinf to react to this card.

Did not finished my tests but more than 4 Goyfs are really good against goblins, it stalls goblins and finish fast after firespout.
The bullet creatures for me are(qasali, RWM and KotR), and I'm not...

That's why I'm testing Green Sun's Zenith as Goyf(6 and 7) and 3 silverbullet guys at board.You should try it.

I want to kill my opponent.. why should I be playing Wall of Roots?

The problem with 4c build are that you just have Goyf as creatures(vendillion don't block and you sideout sometimes) so I'm testing Green Zenith as Goyfs 5th and 6th.. it is just too good that I...

Survivals decks and Merfolks flood make it somehow not a good choice today, so we need to lock them before Survival and remove vines or pack more spellsnares and ench hate or Ctop lock become a plan...

Monored Goblins are much easier than Rb Goblins(with alot of hate pos-board) , I was refering to Rb Goblins where a Simple Goyf can't stop their army and a pos-board perish + needle plan.

Also well piloted Goblins is a hard matchup for 4c Counterbalance decks..and facing the actual aggro decks(read Goblins and Merfolks) I'm not confortable about running 4c against them , as I can see...

@Justjake54: What about your Goblins and Merfolks Matchup without StP? How do you deal with lackey or LoA? Shackles + Firespout seems very good but a bit slow and I would like to know if you really...

For some reference I own a ~50 people tournament yesterday with CTop Progenitus making 6-0(My friend with Ctop progenitus also made 4-1-1 and ended at 9th) the field had lot's of Zoo , Merfolks and...

4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
1 Plains
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
4 Tarmogoyf

I'm impressed , could you share your SB plan against merfolks and goblins with that SB? I would like to test and see if it is better than my new SupremeBlue list.
Thx.

I'm playing and testing NO and SupremeBlue for more than a year.I have won tournaments with both lists and I can easilly say that NO > Jace , if you solve NO versus aggro and mirror you win.Against...

I partially agree with A)Just think you should run three 4cc Must answer spells (Jace , NO).
So I agree with B.
About C I think we need a stable mana base so the goblins and merfolks MU becomes...

I would like to discuss about CTop Firespout high curve against Goblins , Merfolks.I look at these lists and keep thinking that there are so many bad cards for these two matchups which are the bad...

This "Bant and Tell" list is very inconsistent , of course it can do some amazing things but I found it too inconsistet in my 10min tests.Many times I had to mull 5 and keep a lack hand or have S&T...

@Lammina: I didn't tested your list and i don't like the 3 Tops(for me it must be 4 tops and 4 CB).Perimeter capitain seens nice but did you tried Wall of Omens(or Blossons)?It seems much better...

Now that MT is banned and alot of people think that aggro will dominate everything(which is a little dramatic)CB decks will need to adapt to new time, so let's assume the merfolks will go down and...

About Jace TMS , it is awsome as a 1of from my SB, I won a champ yesterday and it really owned the games against Enchantress and BG Builds.Enchantress need to put some pressure or they are dead in 6...

Thx Lego.



I never lost a match to reanimator with Counterbalance Decks and I think we don't need a non-white or slow removal just because of tis matchup.
You should have mull to a decent hand...

Hi everyone, I posted about Plumveil because one friend asked me to do that while we were discussing about SupremeBlue lists, I belived in almost everything Malakai said (except the green mana...

Hi guys, I know that Progenitus CB variants are very pop nowdays but I'm always discussing about SupremeBlue version and how it can be improved in today metagame, so a friend come with the following...

Here is my tested mana base:

1 Island
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Tundra
1 Savannah
4 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Windswept Heath