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    Re: [DTW] CounterTop

    @Cyclopsismydead, I think you're really lucky bcs you didn't have one aggro-deck against you?
    ofcourse you have than a quite good deck lol :)
    But gratz
    I don't know what to play at pro tour...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    condemn really sucks dude lol^^
    just play PTE and STP...
    STp main and PTE side

    I would suggest the stoneforge - jitte/SOFI plan, it really wins the game.
    If you don't have space/don't like it...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    try to spread out your graveyard hate:

    2x relic
    1x tormod's crypt
    1x ravenous trap

    it works better cause dredge plays some discard that they can return so :P
    Tested this matchup and it's...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Also, how many times do you sac qasali on a tournament?? Like one or 2 times.
    The exalted ain't bad but not needed lol, so why would you play it of you got enough 2cmc?

    EDIT: why 4 daze? lategame...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    And what do you guys think of tsabo's web :O?
    quite a good card against land lol? I've played one in
    the side but there aren't much landdecks atm so^^
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Cool, than I'm going to try it to lol^^ :D
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    I played the exact same list in the old days, exept idd a jace over the 4th daze or a rafiq even..
    Jace is good but idk, I think it's to many of 4 drops than...
    I'll always lost from aggro...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    I know but I tested and alot of times it's just to slow, probably because I'm not that skilled with counterbalance decks or something :??
    @My list: manaproblems I've never had so^^
    Elpseth is...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Today it isn't the time to play counterbalance, atleast not if you got an aggro meta^^
    Today I've been to a tournament and I thought like, players will play alot of merfolk (I was right xD)
    and...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    I tried the countertop list and it's not that good against aggro, against merfolk and zoo oké totally not bad lol^^
    But against gobblins it's bad if you don't have turn 3 firespout because you just...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    The lost I posted is good but like you say a turn one vial is really shit, you always need to get off it.
    But it has enough removal to hold it up untill you've got a finisher..
    I play 3x lavamancer...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    @Justin, your totally right but yeah... It's just a very normal list witch I think ain't good anymore in case of the meta atm, all aggro...
    I like this deck very much, more than the deck that got...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Can you cb a krosan grip :O?
    Always thought you coudn't because of the split second lol^^...
    and it's a good deck but agains't gobblins and merfolks you have a really hard matchup..
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Don't you think he plays to much lands?
    And is karakas with clique so good?
    How much goes a karakas these days btw :D

    It's similar to a list I've played but I didn't play white so that's quite...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    What deck do you guys mean with the firespout deck?
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Probably it's something like this list: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=33479
    ... but yeah it's good indeed but I also like some other gameplans and that you...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Where do you fiend his list and do you have a link to his article?
    I would like to read it :)

    ty
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    And what deck you like the most, this or the other you've played :O?
    I like the other more but the deed I'll replace it with a pact and I'll see...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Why do you play a slaughter pact if I may ask :O?
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    And have you tested dark confidant?
    I think he's like a beast in this deck..
    Maybe play him :O??
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    I like your deck but I really don't like the Predict, what do you think is a good replacement?
    Ponders maybe or maybe no draw and you can play something els?

    And congratz with your achievement :D
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    I really like 3 PTE's, 2 Llawan (for progenitus and merfolk) and 3 dueling grounds because it let's you win the aggro matchup :)
    Also 2 jace ain't bad either if you don't play them main...
    2 krosan...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Why not play 2 jace :O?
    They're so good, replace it with the ponders or something else..
    Really try it :)
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    We've got some merfolk in hereand finks is good against that to, and against gobblins^^
    It just kills 2 merfolks/gobblins so it ain't bad and it gives you live, if you got alot of zoo i woudn't play...
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    Re: [DTB] CounterTop

    Nobody says they're bad lol?
    It's just, they don't do much against other decks..
    We play them to help against aggro decks and race them, get life etc...
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