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Seems to be having one basic means you have a 100% chance of getting to two (a pretty important number) with a hard land and you can fight a stifle on fetches. Playing two gives you a strong change...

See the funny thing is I was going to go the otherway with countertop and make it more tempo lol, heres an old spod tempo countertop list with a random control win in it.

4 Nimble Mongoose
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The problem is goyf+ humility is worse than squire+ humility, because squire is on color :rolleyes:

Thats the biggest thing, humility doesnt play well with these cards and the closest deck is...

The real two reasons it cant work.

The cards in this deck that arent lands get swept by EE wrath and disk.

The cards that are lands dont function well enough with counterbalance + humility.

They have that its called Ubgw landstill, you play deed and wrath and crap not careing that you have CB top and goyf in the deck. Its worse than both versions of control.

Lets examine Nassifs list -4 bob -2 sower -2 trygon predator +2 WOG +4 EE +2 vendicate

looks almost like landstill without the awsome enchantments (Humility/Standstill)

They bleed because they...

Right its bonkers in the control and mirrors single handedly wins goyf stalls, and puts enormus pressure on the opponent (sometimes you can activate it the turn after you play it using brainstorm as...

Im sure its been discussed before but what does every one think of hoofprints of the stag ? It seems like that card would be one of the most removal resiliant threats we could reasonably play. Its...

Q: Is a metagame better to the warmonk build or the confidant build (random metagame). And can you play confidant WITH warmonk or is that a nombo?

I would disagree in that the dark blast seem enormously relivant vs goblins, merfolk and any decks playing bob+goyf. Its also better than a path because you can consistentaly hit x/2s with it and its...

Really? I could sware his comment was "There were just so many good cards I wanted in my SB so I played them all"

In any event predator and sower seem really, really clunky in the deck, predator...

I was just asking jeeze. I didnt know if that cool singelton side board made it better than the spout version vs aggro (as it boards in 1 dark blast 1 Jitti 1 threads 1 enlightened tutor 1 EE 1 Hydro...

I will reiterate my question, which is better the warmonk-> spout version or Nassifs version. Also as the japenese list if you need to sweep 0 your losing and what would come out for it on top of...

Thinking about switching from tempo thresh back to counter top. I can build whatever build I need but the question for me is do you play a basic forest since you can play 4 misty rain forests?

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Just a nitpick, sticking a CB is kind of irrelivant compaired to sticking a top(in the tempo matchup). Top is about twice as good in that matchup because they can just use burn to play around CB, Top...