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Direct further discussion to the newly established "Lands" thread. Le yay! Includes an updated OP relevant to 2014 and I will maintain it. Can a mod lock this now then?

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Thanks for the tip (important vs vials). I only seem to remember that with 3 sphere, but the play was to twest for ee. I was unsure wether to play the twest tapped as the second blue source and draw...

Right, so I sequenced my land drops horribly and was a land behind since t2 because I forgot I had exploration out. That held back EE capability because the next turn he dropped Thalia. When I saw...

7-2-1 in Somerset finishing 27th. Punted vs D&T, but had great matches all day. Didn't see any other Lands do well.

Meh, not a fan. I like keeping it OG korean, but id be up for a judge foil like hierarch

Not interested in a primer for Kurt's list. Needs it's own thread.

How does an update happen? We start from what is already posted from OP? Has some key analysis already, but can only Tao do it?...

Can the primer get an update/overhaul? It has long been overdue, but I'd like to help. Still waiting for part 9, too.

18 green sources seems fine with Mox. I have the same manabase minus a fetch and have had no issues with mana.

Nice meeting a Lands comrade! I went 3-2 and missed any placing because of r1 loss on my breakers. Went 1-2 vs miracles and beat shardless and canadian thresh.

^Going to try the forbidden alchemy....

Raise EE count to kill things that need to be removed (TNN) and stop messing around with stack. EE removes the threat in one turn and loam+twest makes it more consistent vs countermagic. Intuition is...

So chalice on one is nuts vs bug. If they dont have AD in hand they do literal nothing. Chalice for one is the standard vs most decks because it stops the md gameplan and almost all gy hate. They...

Have to go to NY with family ): but give'em hell!

Yes. I go 3/3 and 3 twest for all my tourneys and did it for the gp richmond legacy challenge 3-1(130players+). I have been able to beat storm, ignore drs more often, and get fast ee locks. I am...

TNN has made chasm and crucible an auto inclusion in current lists. This combo is too strong against such a non-interactive threat. Just resolve Orb and is gg from there.

Reanimator has MD Rider or Tidespout, but chasm is definitely MD in a large event. For lgs I can see it being weak if you don't have a belcher guy to worry about.

Jund should be a bye, but it really helps to know what your opp is on and if you need the early answer to drs. Based on your activity I thought you already played lands? Those Intuitions can be very...

Karakas is playable I hear.

As soon as you identify your opp on miracles get ee in play on 2 and get ruins in hand or in play. They can't win with this setup. Respond to trigger with Ruins once RiP resolves. Try not to lose any...

I would take out all pfire vs storm combo. The anti-creature lands can be cut for sure, but cutting anymore can weaken mox diamond hands.

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Depends on the mu. Vs storm combo/Ichorid I bring in bob, but vs U(xx) combo decks and control (Miracles) I swap Bob for Intuitions. Entomb is weak vs Miracles and I would take out Entomb them since...

Revokers are pretty nice since they put some pressure with bobs and always dodge pierces while being proactive disruption.

Nice mu indeed. The only time I lose to Sneak is when the moon me. I try to preemptively set ee for 3 but sometimes don't have time to do it if I have to play around pierce. I'm going to try a seal...

The deck is nothing new. Very similar to what I ran in the gp last year, also 61 cards. Swan song is fine vs s&t because chalice for 1 is swingy and using rebs or bebs is a hit or miss. Songs solve...