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    Lands are an easy and well-known way to make chase cards. There are also legitimate 'quality of game play' reasons to limit how easily people can mess with lands. I don't think that WotC has any...
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    I may be overestimating it, but it seems very much like the sort of card that they ought to ban, but won't. I imagine that it will get restricted in vintage fairly quickly since it can find mana...
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    Honestly, Urza's Saga seems more likely. It's got that "we didn't test for eternal formats" vibe.
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    Well, they're both banned now so the question is doubly academic, but it shouldn't really be a huge issue since everyone plays fetches and DRS can use lands from the opponent's graveyard. W6 might...
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    Urza does fit the pattern of modern WotC mistakes since it has a bunch of abilities on a single card, and it fits a traditional mistake pattern since it offsets its own cost in mana production. ...
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    Anything with low cc and strong synergy with fetchlands is liable to find its way into the xerox shell. People have been playing 3 and 4 color U-shell stuff forever, it's a little silly to expect...
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    It's really just a matter of working out the best way to fill the graveyard. Bridge is certainly a derpy card, but you can cast Hogaak with Prized Amalgam and Bloodghast too.
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    Under ideal conditions, Citadel is like a combination of Yawgmoth's Bargain and Channel. The power level is very high. The question is whether the need to play lands or counters is strong enough...
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    Several of the other cards in the ban list are ostensibly only usable in one kind of deck. What kind of deck does Flash get used in?
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    Part of the trick is that there's a whole catalog. Necrotic Ooze or Griselbrand + Loyal Retainers are derpy too.
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    You can't exhume artifacts. (Shallow Grave + Magus of the Jar or Griselbrand does work.)

    There are a couple of things that you can do with jar that you can't do with other stuff, I'm not sure...
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    That's a bit of a straw man. Most of the time you shuffle at most once. It could be a bit messy in a match vs something odd like lantern control, but, even then, there are practical ways to...
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    I still want to see a version of Misdirection in red.
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    Are those first twos really reliant on DRS? I would expect combo decks to get less utility from tapping stuff than grindy decks do.
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    I, for one, welcome our new creature overlords.
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    The format is called "Legacy" right?
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    S&T is in a class of its own, but we do have Sneak Attack / Through the Breach and Animate Dead / Exhume as alternative ways to cheat Grisselbrand into play.
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    Sure, but how do we distinguish between "S&T is the problem" and "Griselderp is the problem?"
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    I think that's deliberate. Can't have a midrange-heavy format if everyone is playing zany stuff.
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    I'm not sure that Frantic Search would be a problem card, but that's a rather facile dismissal. Frantic Search also has potential synergies with graveyard stuff like dredge or reanimator and decks...
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    I think the cat could find a combo deck in the future. The other cards aren't nearly so impressive.
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    It may well be that the data that forced their hand is not the win rate cited in the announcement, but rather a lack of sales of the new set or participation in standard events.
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    Yeah, it's a little odd to see no prisoner exchange considering there's a decent list of reasonably safe cards they could have picked.

    I tend to think that Counterbalance is a grossly powerful...
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    They can always stick it in the commander sets.
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    I don't think CB is a particularly good anti-combo card. Regardless, there are lots of other strong answers available for both swarm and combo, so those specific cards are not vital the way...
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