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I think it will be better served if we actually discuss what MM counters that your worried about if this is the kind of discussion you wish to have. I would also like to see where you value such a...

That's simply not true. The reason landstill is seeing a revival is because Gerry T and Drew Levin piloted landstill, and some guy thought it would be a cool idea to run ancestral visions over...

Klaus your missing stoneforge mystic. Cut the ponder, and the shackles and run that card. It's clearly miles ahead of shackles, and it gives control a superior beater (Batterskull)

I feel that 4...

When I tested against it it felt like he was playing supreme blue. No real interaction minus one card you have to play around carefully. Once the situation has been voided, the game is over.

I'm glad to see landstill getting some review. I am not happy to see the information on it, is for the most part wrong. I like Kyle though.

Let time tell whats going to happen. People have been trying to break blue in goblins for a long time. It doesn't make it good. It just makes it.... well goblins. They still have less lords then...

I don't think mm deserves a slot in landstill. Vial is the only reason to play it, and if your talking about combo breaker, pierce is just a better card out of the board. as for vial, yes its a...

I may give it up, but not just yet. I'm going to be doing some testing with it first.

I don't really care to argue about something that menotinous either. I can't deny that it does end up in some of my lists as well, and probobly will continue to do so.

I am currently working on a...

I lol'd. You can't just stereotype an archtype of players and say they don't know how to reinvent the wheel. Just because your not content with Landstill's redundant meta game style shell doesn't...

While the first part I can somewhat agree on. The second part I don't understand at all.


The Jace argument is debatable. Jace does not shore any matchup in legacy currently. Its no better then...

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I don't buy that your matchups against aggro decks are that good based on 4 stp, some tutorable utility, and some utility artifact that you have to have a stp on anyways. It just...

1. Your playing very little removal in this deck. Landstill is an archtype thats supposed to smash aggro. I really don't think this list presented could beat many of the aggro decks. Especially...

You don't need a soft lock in landstill. You are the soft lock.

I've been testing this model to some good results. I haven't played in sanctioned play with it yet, but I wouldn't at all be against it.

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Took the words out of my mouth, I completely agree with everything you just said.

I would also like to add that it is this specific reasoning which makes cards like Colonnade and such not only...

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I looked at your list and I really feel like it suffers from trying to be too cute. Land still is all about redundancy, and while a lot of times there are one ofs in the arch type they...

Does anyone know what Jupiter Landstill lists are looking like these days? I can't find results for that location anywhere.

I agree. If you don't know your meta, then you shouldn't be playing Landstill; as it's primarily a Metagame deck. You don't take landstill into unknown metas and expect to have good results...

it just depends on your flavor, and what you feel is strong for your meta. go with redundancy and then expand your horizon's.

why r u running telemin performance in the board? It's terrible.

@ Moss: While Planar Void is simply amazing vs. Loam decks and Dredge, I find Extirpate to be more versatile and useful in a wide variety of matchups, while still being effective grave-hate. I don't...

I do think the idea of the off color fourth land is decent. I've seen it work. Chris (mastershake) Team Bad Guys has used it. Oh I so promo'd the team there <----- See it?

Chris has done extremely...

Mana Drain were on the same logic. Although I don't see too many cards in landstills natural shell that I would take out for cannonist if it was an option.

I think your vastly underrating...

I think this is inherently the wrong way to play against vengevine survival. Your better off playing superior cards and keeping survival off the table.

When all else fails obviously humility is...