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Not to mention that Beast Within makes our mana base more fragile...

Vindicate demands tapping as well as EE. That was my reasoning. Vindicates doesn't ask us a "fragile" mana base with a 4th color to deal with pw!
I'm not saying that EE is not needed off course.

I'd Love try Vindicate in the deck as a 2 of. Some time ago i'd tried it and i liked. Nowadays does it worth?

Mmmm...that counterspell in the side looks awful...if it were pierce...ok but counterspell?

I liked your list very much! The only change i suggest is cutting 1 CS for 1 Path to exile! :)

Running FOF and Jce togehter sound good, indeed. I was thinking about that for a long time, so i cut 2 vindicate and the decree to incluye 2 FOF:

4 Standstill
4 Force of Will
3 Counterspell
3...

Did anybody metion that jace can win games by himself???

In the last posts i noticed in the list you share that yuo're running just 1 PW for the win...elspeth or jace but not both? What is this due to??

Glad to read that. Anyway i was referring of running 3 EE istead running 2 Vindicate. For example 3 EE + something.
But if you look solid (i look it so) it's ok for me.

Vindicate is great! But im not sure if run it MD! Is this configuration of permanent manegment right??

2 EE
2 Vindicate
2 Jace TMS
2 Wrath
4 StP
2 PtE
1 Humility

Thx mana drain for your comments. I like the list you propose except for that i, personally, prefer a UWx list: UWr or UWb not UWrb. I think that UWb version has more options for the side: Extirpate,...

Hey guys!! I'm thinking on turning my UWb configuration to UWr that you sugest. Take a look to my list and if you can tell me the changes to make it red:

// Lands
1 [TSP] Academy Ruins
4...

Congrats!!! So you run UWr configuration???

Leaving a side, for a while, Elspeth 2.0: Has anybody tested Ghastly Demise as a 2 off? It would be in replace of PtE. I dislike the land drop that it gives to oponent. Off course i'm talking about...

My bad.
He answered your question some post above...

@Felidae: i hope my calculations aren't wrong but did you post a 61 cards list??

@Felidae: Dragon and crucible together in the same list?? Nice, but why??

Some points about this two cards...Crucible needs 3 lands to be cast while Dragon will give you, for sure, your 3rd land. Once put in the yard, dragon looses some utility due it "buyback" cost. With...

Could a crucible make this job intead dragon??

Sorry, but what is vindicate exactly for here??

Could you be especific with your mana base?

I couldn't say it better! I run a 2x FoF 1 x Jace!

I liked this list, very "classic one". But what about side?? And...Why no jace 2.0 nor 1 copy??

It's indeed strong. I run 3 copies. It's a good second turn (1st of yours) full counter. And in many matches could be determinant. It's not necesary to list up what it counters...
Off course in a...

I love vindicates. Now that i got 1 Jace 2.0 + 1 Karakas to deal with iona, i think that i cut probably my wishes for 2 vindicates + 1 Stanstill.
I hope to have enought blue cards to set on fow.

I play a 3/3 split of CB and spell snare and it's cool...