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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Tendrils is a sorcery so no, you cannot sac Uro to Tendrils in response to Uro's etb trigger.
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Well, what would you want to use the mana for? What possibilities would it open up that the deck needs/what weaknesses does it help solve?
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    You could always cut the DR package down to 3 DR, 2 Flayer. Saves another slot over 2 Spy/1 Flayer
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Narcomoeba isn't terrible though. Having a flyer can be crucial when playing vs. anything that can make an EoT Marit Lage :wink:

    I wish we could cut the Shambling Shells, but there aren't many...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    If you're no longer interested in resolving DR, why still bother with Cabal Therapy..? That frees up some extra slot for I-dunno-what. Maybe dump Street Wraith back in? Or round all 3's back up to 4....
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Agreed
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Basically, w/ TotP you don't need any more DRs to burn down your opponent that turn where you would w/ Flayer. Although that could be up for debate with the addition of 4 Creeping Chill and 8 3 power...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Swapping out a Phantasmagorian for an extra Shambling Shell is a change I can get behind. Good idea!

    Speaking of Terror of the Peaks...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I'd shave like a dredger or a DR in order to run a Thassa's Oracle/Flayer of the Hatebound. Adding that "I win"-button costs you literally just 1 slot, which simply must be worth it. And by doing so...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    And you were right about that. You clarified it well :smile:
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I get your point but don't necessarily agree with it
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I just prefer "I win this turn" (Flayer) over "I probably win in a few turns" (Ashen Rider). I think the extra hoops you have to jump through are worth it.

    @Mr. Safety You dredge into Spy often...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Why DR Bazaar Trademage when you have access to Balustrade Spy, Griselbrand or Whirlpool Rider/Drake? Those basically say "flip my library" rather than "Time Walk twice".

    Oracle is a fine wincon....
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    @idc1993: Congrats on the result! I run the exact same 60!
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    @sdematt https://discord.gg/uqcbdn

    :wink:
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    You do you boo
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Good if you can fit them in. Flip library, drain 12 is pretty nifty.
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    That goes both ways bud :wink:
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    And I don't mind running one in a deck with Hogaak.
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    3/1 is fine, and one black creature more or less for Ichorid hardly matters. Giant is better in a vacuum, Flayer is more robust
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    A couple of Dread Returns, Flayer of the Hatebound and Golgari Grave-Troll
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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    You are a monster :laugh:
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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    They have clearly different names and types. One has the type Knight, the other has not. All you have to check is does the card have the type Knight? Ardenvale Knight does, therefor you can cast...
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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    The creature part is a Knight, the adventure isn't so you can't cast the adventure from your GY via Haakon (unless it had Changeling). It's clear enough.
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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    They're typed as instants/sorceries, so I imagine cost reducers work.
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