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Same can be said about Delver decks.

People are just used to control decks in other formats that are so underpowered you have to tip-toe the margins to get a win. Miracles was one the only...

Right. Seems unlikely that BUG/4-Color won't become the deck to beat. They already had an even share of the winner's circle as Miracles, and now their worst matchup is gone.

Historically, those type of decks are supposed to get crushed by UW Control. Swapping creatures won't matter much cause they all die to Terminus. If you turn off Top you're just making me cast it...

The thing with Miracles is, literally every set they print an aggressively costed value creature targeted towards eternal formats. Terminus is like the Sarlacc pit and R&D is feeding Miracles a...

Yeah, that's what I was saying. It seems that they printed the card to hate on Miracles (won't see the light of day in Standard), but it looks like it's just a worse Revoker.

Worse than Revoker?

I'm a big fan of most of the masterpieces. These ones just are impossible to read, and the artwork looks like computer-generated. Almost like Diablo 3 screenshots.

It's guaranteed to be so tilting to your opponent that I'd call it tech for the Miracles mirror...:wink:

I'm just going to pretend I don't see the card and make my opponent tell me what it is...that or call the judge and tell him my opponent is playing Yugioh cards.

Yeah, I suppose I really mean Shardless and the more grindy midrange decks, not Delver per se. Seeing people talk about being grinded-out made me think of those decks even while I wrote "Delver".

Well you all basically agreed with what I said, even if you're defending a card I said was good in the first place. As you pointed out, Miracles was a prison deck until the constant power creep...

Revelation was an X spell that snowballed off hitting land drops; you can't really compare draw-go decks to Miracles. Miracles is fundamentally a prison deck, and I think Predict is just a good...

You can watch Lossett

https://www.twitch.tv/oarsman79

Except the replays are useless due to the muting so you've got to follow the stream and watch live.

I still play with 2x Entreat the Angels and my gameplan against Shardless is to either create a boardstate where Jace is free to do his thing or simply resolve an Entreat. Now I would never board a...

Well that makes sense. I've been trying to figure out what the magical matchup was that had people running Back to Basics over Blood Moon.

I swear I saw Joe on camera running Back to Basics...

Where are you seeing coverage of Chiba?

I think it's mostly metagame differences. If you compare the last 2 months on mtgtop8.com you can even see numbers showing a much higher percentage of blue decks in the top tables of MODO...

I used to run Venser, but no longer have even that. CounterTop is huge, but your opponent still has to find an answer quickly to beat a Jace, as the card advantage form Jace is a lot more than a...

Everyone says this, but most of my wins in the mirror are from Jace or Entreat. Oftentimes going over the top of Counterbalance + Top. The common logic in this thread is that both these cards are...

I just switched to Sulfur Elemental in the side over Verdict. I just didn't want to be bringing in Verdict in the mirror, and the turn 3 Mentor cheese is everywhere. If it does something in another...

Using sideboard slots to trade 1 for 1 is normally a waste. In the case of Wear/Tear, a Pithing Needle is worth way more than a card, but unless you're worried about something like Gaddock Teeg I...

I agree with both. I'm assuming that even if I warp my play around answering the Goblin Guide, I'm still going to take at least 6-8, and it's hard for me to understand why anyone would think...

Wow, Temporal Mastery in a 4x Mentor-Top build actually sounds broken. It's a different deck, but it would be a shame if nobody ever tried it.

You just need some way to use the extra mana the...

Do you find that you're able to reliably lock out decks with Back to Basics? Are there matchups where you just use it to turn your opponent's lands into Lotus Petals? Demars used to run it in my...

Is this true? I made a call a year ago about 4x Ponder lists being the precursor to another archetype with Mentors instead of miracles. It would be interesting to see that actually develop.