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I don't know about you, but in the Knight/Cradle shell that is Maverick, I can't help but think it'd go in here, Thalia or not. Some scenarios quite capable of happening:

Turn one Land, Mother....

I'mma just say this about Mind Twist. I played with and against this card for years, way back before Legacy was a thing. And everybody I see discuss it, either way, seems to be talking about the card...

This.

While I personally don't think the unbanning of Vise is good for magic in any way shape or form, anybody who advocates the unbanning of Yawgmoth's Will in Legacy has absolutely no idea...

Why would you not just play these with Force/Daze/Pierce/Stifle backup? See my point on how difficult it is to design these cards?

I like Faust. Change "Whenever" to "If," so it's a replacement ability, and I also want to rename him something that just makes people cringe. Like Sanity Scraper. And make him more black-feeling.
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Problem is, this is going to be absurdly difficult to do from a design standpoint.

The statement "Blue is power creeping heavily" is inaccurate only in tense. Blue has already power crept. Blue...

You phrase what is simple fact as though it were a hypothetical.

I will say this - Brainstorm's existence largely makes this true, because of how incredible Brainstorm is at making precision...

I'm fine with a format reset at this point. I hate Legacy at current.

While I personally love Brainstorm, I'm fine with it going away. Brainstorm's banning would do something for the format -...

This is kind of the major point of why I think it might take more than one banning to fix this format.

Even if one thing goes, though, maybe there's hope for improvement.

EDIT: Also, fuck Mav...

Did you imagine they'd print Griselbrand? Did people years ago imagine they'd print Emrakul?

Give Wizards long enough and they'll print something even more nuts. Wouldn't be surprised to see this...

Best part of this thread - The best tactical argument against fixing Legacy is to use bold and large fonts.



Is there a quote of the year thread I can nominate you for? If not, I should just...

It's also a 2-drop red dude in a format where combo exists. I don't think he'd break anything. He still dies to most black removal, being blocked by Snapcaster Mage, or, suboptimally, casting 2 CMC-1...

Also, in digging for various ways to answer the current format via Cavern of Souls, I discovered the following facts:

1. Almost every scary dude in this format flies. Delver, Griselbrand, Emrakul,...

This is completely wrong, narrow, and off the point.

All blue decks are not RUG Delver.

Decks with Aether Vial/Cavern of Souls do not auto-crush blue decks, because blue is all three major...

So after a lot of consideration, I might be on the ban Brainstorm bandwagon. Not that I think Brainstorm's the actual problem with Legacy. The problem with Legacy is that the whole format is blue.
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This. You can't even remotely argue Vampiric in here - One gets you the card on top of your library, one gets you the card in your hand. MAYBE you can pitch Demonic here - 2 mana at Sorcery Speed,...

This thread really makes me remember why I quit posting here the first time. This has gone from intelligent discussion about the power levels of Show and Tell and the relevant format power levels to...

The question I pose to the Ban Brainstorm because of the 32/32 Brainstorm people is this:

Would you call for the banning of Wasteland if it made 32/32?

In my defense, you don't hear me bitch about Dredge, Reanimator, Belcher, Painter Stone, or 95% of the combo decks that have been around. I don't actually advocate for the banning of decks. I...

All I hear about the metagame not adapting to Show and Tell is completely bogus. The metagame has ALREADY adapted to Show and Tell - Most players are already playing either it or RUG Delver to beat...

Thank you. I've been trying to make this point for ages.

I think banning Show and Tell will by itself curb the power of RUG Delver for exactly that reason.

Kind of makes you wonder why Show and Tell decks don't sideboard Chalice of the Void.

I still say being by faaaar the best answer to S&T decks (and S&T wrecking everything that preys on RUG) and...

Here's why Griselbrand won't ever get banned (In Legacy. I make no promises about Commander), regardless of whether or not S&T does.

Wizards wants to print big legendary dudes that make people go...

I'mma pick your post to respond to because it's actually pretty intelligent and contains real content, unlike most of the anti "Ban SnT" arguments thus far. Note that I did say "1-Spell Combo" and...

Doomsday is where Show and Tell was a few years ago - Not quite there, but with the potential to get there. Doomsday's missing a link somewhere, though, and has the drawback of halving your life...