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This is really the only argument for banning probe that is convincing. It's not bannable on merits, but if everyone hates it but me and Ron, probably worth banning it.
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Just chiming in again to say Ron is still right, and Gitaxian Probe is fine.

Forest players just mad people see they have nothing and kill them, instead of getting to pretend they had something.

Survival of the Fittest is fair right now. If they unbanned it I don't think it would do anything except maybe make another cool Tier 2 deck.



"Utility?"



The reason he wrote it like he...

I find tempo much more fun to play against than DnT personally, but yes, Red Prison has many similar qualities to DnT that make them both miserable. I would say that DnT is more like stubbing all ten...

Isn't there a modern deck that is playing terminus? I'm pretty sure that format doesn't have Brainstorm in it.

I also don't think that banning brainstorm would make it possible to unban DTT,...

Just looking at the timeline of a few recent ones (I can't really speak for the time before I played regularly, because I wouldn't have a good sense of the community sentiment):

Modern, 2014: Ban...

As I've argued before, these bans were about public perception, rather than actual brokenness. In this case, the boon to the playerbase was assumed to be the banning itself, so no compensation was...

I think it's actually the opposite - they know full well those cards wouldn't do anything, but sometimes they slip up and print something like Dig Through Time and need to ban it, and being able to...

Have you seen the new phoenix deck? If you want to do the buried alive thing you might like it.

Also, I still think unbanning Survival wouldn't do anything.

Exactly.

I'm not sure everyone read Jar before posting - it makes you both set aside your current hand, draw seven, then discard the seven and get the original hand back at end of turn. It temporarily wheels...

Yeah, I have to agree with Dice on this one, I think recruiter would do stone cold nothing.

They've never actually impacted round length with a ban, they just use it as an excuse to ban...

Like Mega said, I don't really see Mind Twist contributing any particularly interesting games, even if it is safe to unban. We could do it, but do we really need or want to?

They banned the storm cards, though.

This sounds sweet.



:rolleyes:

I mean, that's possible, but I think the dominant factor in round length is "Odds that a game has gone to time," not, "time required once in rounds." With a deck like Eggs that actually requires a...

This is the "wallpapering" Kap'n Cook was talking about.

Tournaments still have rounds that go to time even with Top gone - slow players are slow players, it's not about the card itself. All it...

Yes.

When the screenshot of that was just spoiled, I was hoping so hard that spectacle wasn't going to be, "If you have some guys..." and then... it was.

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Not to be...

:smile: Thanks!

I think that card is sweet but not good enough - it's a 4 mana 4/4, which decks that can abuse the Scry don't want, and decks that might want the body have way better options and...

Are Storm, Miracles, Grixis, and Sneak and Show really converging? Are they really goodstuff decks? I don't think this claim bears scrutiny. If you mean that the only essentially viable midrange deck...

Thanks for the ups, Mr. Safety. I try to be even-handed in my posts.



Yes, that's the nature of the beast. The precise synergies allow other colors to trade broad, flexible application for...

WOAH WOAH WOAH, you leave my boy alone :laugh::tongue:



I mean, I think this is true, but a little overstated. For instance:

Lands: Gamble, Life From the Loam, Crop Rotation
DNT: Recuiter,...

OK, so the point you're making is that, historically, the DTB months, taken together as a data set, do not support my point?

As a counter point, I went through the DTB back to page 4, looking at...

I mean, it also had one or more bannings for all the years preceding those two since its inception, but this is a fair point. I think Modern still takes the cake for number of arbitrary bannings,...