Nightmare's Broken-Ass EDH deck

[LostButSeeking]

Ah, not for dueling then?

[Blitzbold]

There are some cards that I'd like to add, but the list is very tight as it stands by now. However, there are also some cards I don't like that much, probably cudos to the banning of Tinker.

Cards I am unsure about / wasn't impressed with:

-> Gilded Lotus: cute with MoM, somewhat clunky whithout
-> Grim Monolith: nice manaboost, helps Academy later on, but not that great otherwise; looking for space for Power Artifact also sucks

As ususal, there are more cards I'd like to fit in:

-> Commandeer
-> Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
-> Venser, Shaper Savant
-> Vendilion Clique

[TrialByFire]

Cards I am unsure about / wasn't impressed with:

-> Gilded Lotus: cute with MoM, somewhat clunky whithout
-> Grim Monolith: nice manaboost, helps Academy later on, but not that great otherwise; looking for space for Power Artifact also sucks

As ususal, there are more cards I'd like to fit in:

-> Commandeer
-> Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
-> Venser, Shaper Savant
-> Vendilion Clique

Gilded Lotus - Best mana accelerator in the deck besides Mana Crypt and Sol Ring. It makes colored mana and you can usually play it for 3 or 4 anyways.

Grim Monolith - Seriously? Take it out?

As for you adds

Comandeer - Too cute
Teferi - Good for protection, if you can make space run it
Venser - Chain of Vapor or Mana Drain are much better
Clique - Useless

[Blitzbold]

Care to explain your oppinions?

I try to look at both Lotus and Monolith without having much more on the table. Without Mind over Matter, what do they add? Monolith at least accelerates, but the Lotus - what do you want to accelerate into when you already have 5 Mana to spent? Sure, this deck is very mana hungry when going off, but added protection for free (e.g. Comandeer) fulfills a similar role in my eyes.

Comparing Venser to the second-best counter or one of the best bounce ever printed is wrong. Noone was thinking about either Drain or CoV anyway. Venser combines counter and bounce in one card in addition to being a Wizard, too.

[Nightmare]

Azami, Lady of Scrolls


Force of Will
Mana Drain
Rewind
Pact of Negation
Snap
Repeal
Snapback
Thirst for Knowledge
Frantic Search
Merchant Scroll
Mystical Tutor
Long-Term Plans
Meditate
Ideas Unbound
High Tide
Braingeyser
Stroke of Genius
Turnabout
Future Sight
Mind Over Matter
Mana Severance
Mind's Desire
Timetwister
Time Spiral
Ponder
Brainstorm
Windfall
Gush
Tezzeret the Seeker

Memnarch
Cursecatcher
Filigree Sages
Fatestitcher
Merrow Levitator
Inspired Sprite
Patron Wizard
Glen Elendra Archmage
Magus of the Bazaar
Magus of the Future
Magus of the Jar
Oboro Breezecaller
Sigil Tracer
Stonybrook Banneret
Trinket Mage
Vedalken Aethermage
Voidmage Prodigy
Hapless Researcher

Tidespout Tyrant
Etherium Sculptor
Master Transmuter

Candelabra of Tawnos
Voltaic Key
Thran Dynamo
Sapphire Medallion
Helm of Awakening
Gauntlet of Power
Gilded Lotus
Chronatog Totem
Eye of Ramos
Chrome Mox
Mox Diamond
Lotus Petal
Mana Vault
Mana Crypt
Grim Monolith
Crucible of Worlds
Sol Ring
Sensei's Divining Top
Goblin Charbelcher
Memory Jar
Cloud Key

Polluted Delta
Flooded Strand
Tolarian Academy
Mishra's Workshop
Tolaria West
Darksteel Citadel
Seat of the Synod
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
20x Island


That's the new list. I'm thinking about trying to get Synod Artificer in the deck, but I don't know if I need it or not. If I do add it, it would also mean I cut Crucible for Thousand Year Elixir, which I've been meaning to do anyway.

[beastman]

I tried azami once. I almost decked myself because I was having so much fun drawing 8 cards a turn that I forgot to start attacking.

[Nightmare]

I tried azami once. I almost decked myself because I was having so much fun drawing 8 cards a turn that I forgot to start attacking.

Why in gods name would you attack? You win by drawing your deck, and then making them draw their deck.

[beastman]

Well, I did not know this...meh, if your opponent isn't allowed to do anything due to the fact that you have three answers for every threat they can produce, I doubt it matters how you win.

[Nightmare]

Hooooly shit.

I JUST realized that I'm not playing Skullclamp.

Why am I not playing Skullclamp?

[Bryant Cook]

Hooooly shit.

I JUST realized that I'm not playing Skullclamp.

Why am I not playing Skullclamp?

Because it's not that good in your deck?

[Nightmare]

Because it's not that good in your deck?

Maybe, but I'm not so sure. I'll need to think on this one.

[Bryant Cook]

Maybe, but I'm not so sure. I'll need to think on this one.

You don't have enough 1 toughness dudes to make it be that effective. You also don't have any sacrifice outlets.

[Nightmare]

Cursecatcher
Glen Elendra Archmage
Magus of the Bazaar
Magus of the Jar
Oboro Breezecaller
Stonybrook Banneret
Voidmage Prodigy
Hapless Researcher

It's good with all these guys, along with putting it on Azami, since people love to kill her. I'm just throwing stuff out there to try to improve the deck. As I said, you might be right.

[Bryant Cook]

8/100. Seems solid.

[Nightmare]

8/100. Seems solid.

Your sarcasm isn't appreciated. Thanks for the assistance on the deck, all the suggestions you've made in this thread have been real helpful!

[xXxBretWeedxXx]

As wrong as it seems to do it, I have to agree with Bryant. You're never going to be happy to draw clamp. I do think Teferi is worth a look however.

[mossivo1986]

Your sarcasm isn't appreciated. Thanks for the assistance on the deck, all the suggestions you've made in this thread have been real helpful!

To be Fair you did say your deck was much more stable then his. I've thoroughly tested his deck. He was right to just drop it because of the idiocy that incurs. I can't get anyone in my play group to play EDH with me when I pilot that 100 card dumbness. When I play it online I get chewed out. FML

[Offler]

Hi.

I tried to modify your deck for german Highlander rules where is no general. Not so popular format in USA, but here in Europe is most common in casual.

Previously i had to remove some cards from the modified deck, but they are combining in a small combo.

Fallowsage
Combine it with your general - Azami, and if possible with Mind over Matter. In this case he is weaker Arcanis, but he won that game where i combined him with Azami.

Fallowsage, Paradise mantle, Pemmins aura/Freed from the real
Infinite cards combo. Tap Fallowsage for blue mana, draw a card, untap it.

There is hard way to tap it without attacking in deck without general, but in EDH Azami (or some merfolks) can fix this.

the same Tap for mana/untap mechanism can be used with another merfolk. I am speaking (writing) about Grimoire thief. When he is on the table, and he does not have summoning sickness just equip and enchant him and remove all opponent's libraries.

But... he is not a Wizard, but Rogue.

(Sorry for my english grammar :) )

[JeroenC]

I might consider building this for my second EDH deck. However, some of the cards in the deck are out of my budget range and I don't proxy my EDH decks. So I was wondering: what are some of the more expensive cards, and are they necessary/replacable?

[Blitzbold]

This deck is really dumb. I still love it, but I also do have problems bringing it to a playgroup. Last time I challenged them for a 2 vs me duel. It wasn't enough.

This is my curent list for reference. I removed some of the combo parts and replaced them with some controlish stuff, but the deck is still broken as hell. To be honest, I am considering dismantling it for good. Even though its nearly all shiny now....

General
Azami, Lady of Scrolls

Creatures
Cursecatcher
Etherium Sculptor
Filigree Sage
Hapless Researcher
Inspired Sprite
Magus of the Bazaar
Magus of the Jar
Magus of the Future
Memnarch
Merrow Levitator
Patron Wizard
Sigil Tracer
Stonybrook Banneret
Tidespout Tyrant
Trinket Mage
Venser, Shaper Savant
Vedalken Aethermage
Voidmage Prodigy

Spells
Braingeysir
Brainstorm
Brain Freeze
Cryptic Command
Force of Will
Frantic Search
Future Sight
Gush
High Tide
Long-Term Plans
Mana Drain
Mana Severance
Meditate
Merchant Scroll
Mind over Matter
Mind Spring
Mind's Desire
Muddle the Mixture
Mystical Tutor
Pact of Negation
Ponder
Relearn
Remand
Repeal
Rewind
Snap
Stroke of Genius
Tezzeret the Seeker
Thirst for Knowledge
Time Spiral
Timetwister
Turnabout
Windfall

Non-creature artifacts
Candelabra of Tawnos
Chrome Mox
Coalition Relic
Eye of Ramos
Gauntlet of Power
Gilded Lotus
Goblin Charbelcher
Grim Monolith
Helm of Awakening
Lotus Petal
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Memory Jar
Mox Diamond
Sapphire Medallion
Sensei's Divining Top
Sol Ring
Voltaic Key

Lands
Academy Ruins
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Riptide Laboratory
Tolarian Academy
Tolaria West
Darksteel Citadel
Seat of the Synod
Mishra's Workshop
Island x22