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    [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

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    Sedris, the Traitor King

    Combo: 5
    Curiosity
    Ophidian Eye
    Niv-Mizzet, The Firemind
    Goryo's Vengeance
    Makeshift Mannequin

    Tutors: 10
    Entomb
    Buried Alive
    Demonic Tutor
    Imperial Seal
    Vampiric Tutor
    Grim Tutor
    Intuition
    Gifts Ungiven
    Tainted Pact
    Mystical Tutor

    Counters: 10
    Mana Drain
    Counterspell
    Draining Whelk
    Rewind
    Dream Fracture
    Negate
    Hinder
    Pact of Negation
    Overwhelming Intellect
    Force of Will

    Sweepers: 5
    Damnation
    Earthquake
    Rolling Earthquake
    Engineered Explosives
    Oblivion Stone

    Spot Removal/Control Magics: 7
    Shriekmaw
    Wretched Banquet
    Grixis Charm
    Chainer's Edict
    Diabolic Edict
    Terminate
    Treachery

    Bounce: 2
    Repeal
    Aethersnipe

    Carddraw/Card Quality: 11
    Mulldrifter
    Arcanis the Omnipotent
    Careful Study
    Ponder
    Brainstorm
    Sensei's Divining Top
    Timetwister
    Wheel of Fortune
    Opportunity
    Fact or Fiction
    Thirst For Knowledge

    Artifact Mana: 10
    Mana Vault
    Mana Crypt
    Mox Diamond
    Chrome Mox
    Sol Ring
    Talisman of Dominance
    Dimir Signet
    Izzet Signet
    Coalition Relic
    Grim Monolith

    Utility: 6
    Cruel Ultimatum
    Izzet Chronarch
    Nucklavee
    Liliana Vess
    Triskelion
    Bribery

    Lands:
    Polluted Delta
    Flooded Strand
    Bloodstained Mire
    Rocky Tar Pit
    Bad River
    Flood Plain
    Grixis Panorama
    Terramorphic Expanse
    Steam Vents
    Watery Grave
    Volcanic Island
    Blood Crypt
    Underground Sea
    Badlands
    Vivid Creek
    Vivid Marsh
    Izzet Boilerworks
    Dimir Aqueducts
    Sulfurous Springs
    Underground River
    Shivan Reef
    Crumbling Necropolis
    Minamo, School at Water's Edge
    Volrath's Stronghold
    Academy Ruins
    Tolarian Academy
    Tolaria West
    Dreadship Reef
    Island
    Swamp
    Mountain
    Snow-Covered Island
    Snow-Covered Swamp

    Basically, you combo out with Sedris/Goryo's Vengeance/Makeshift Mannequin at EOT+Niv Mizzet+Curiosity/Ophidian Eye. The amount of tutors in the deck is staggering, but it allows me to find the combo consistently.
    Last edited by Roman Candle; 05-12-2009 at 06:57 AM.

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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    What up with all the EDH decks recently, is it EDH season or something. I have not seen this played at my local shops but looks fun.

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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    Be careful who you play against. I know of several play groups that have "banned" the Niv Mizzet combo because it takes away from EDH being a fun format.

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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kruchkow View Post
    Be careful who you play against. I know of several play groups that have "banned" the Niv Mizzet combo because it takes away from EDH being a fun format.
    If your playgroup is so underpowered as to ban a two card combo that requires a shroud-less creature that costs a million mana (or ridiculously circuitous shenanigans that take forever with lots of set up) and a shroud-less enchantment and is pulled off at sorcery speed, I'd say you folks need to turn the suck down.

    There is a difference between a complete combo deck (like Adam's wizard deck or Bryant's old pile) and a control deck with a combo like this. If somebody Palinchron/Stroke'd you out, would you be pissed? No. Also, Stroke isn't worthless by itself. And Palinchron is amazing for making infinite mana with storage lands is fairly sweet.
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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Zach Tartell View Post
    If your playgroup is so underpowered as to ban a two card combo that requires a shroud-less creature that costs a million mana (or ridiculously circuitous shenanigans that take forever with lots of set up) and a shroud-less enchantment and is pulled off at sorcery speed, I'd say you folks need to turn the suck down.

    There is a difference between a complete combo deck (like Adam's wizard deck or Bryant's old pile) and a control deck with a combo like this. If somebody Palinchron/Stroke'd you out, would you be pissed? No. Also, Stroke isn't worthless by itself. And Palinchron is amazing for making infinite mana with storage lands is fairly sweet.
    Its more an issue with Niv as a general than just having the combo decked. And having a repeatable creature in a control shell that needs 1 card to combo you out is really good.

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    Yeah i play Niv Mizzet as my general and my friends don't like my deck. And i go infinite turns with Beacon of Tomorrows and Planar Portal. Yeah...
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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Zach Tartell View Post
    If your playgroup is so underpowered as to ban a two card combo that requires a shroud-less creature that costs a million mana (or ridiculously circuitous shenanigans that take forever with lots of set up) and a shroud-less enchantment and is pulled off at sorcery speed, I'd say you folks need to turn the suck down.

    There is a difference between a complete combo deck (like Adam's wizard deck or Bryant's old pile) and a control deck with a combo like this. If somebody Palinchron/Stroke'd you out, would you be pissed? No. Also, Stroke isn't worthless by itself. And Palinchron is amazing for making infinite mana with storage lands is fairly sweet.
    Agreed, although to be fair, I CAN go off at instant speed with Goryo's, and Ophidian Eye.

    So, is your general opinion that the deck is unplayable? I'm just curious, I don't know much about EDH, but I've been having a lot of fun with this build. I like the combo shell and the random I-Win Factor of the combo with so many tutors.

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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman Candle View Post
    Agreed, although to be fair, I CAN go off at instant speed with Goryo's, and Ophidian Eye.

    So, is your general opinion that the deck is unplayable? I'm just curious, I don't know much about EDH, but I've been having a lot of fun with this build. I like the combo shell and the random I-Win Factor of the combo with so many tutors.
    I think it looks pretty good i'm just saying that you should make sure your play group is cool so that you don't make it only to have no one wanna play it.
    Also, since Niv isn't the general, it seems more fair.

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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    You haven't played EDH until you've won (or lost) by means of Mindslaver + Yomiji, Who Bars the Way.

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    Re: [EDH] Sedris, Traitor King Combo-Control

    MY EDH Sedris (though a bit more budget than this) runs Minion Reflector. It works great with all the 187 creatures in the deck, and the cheap reanimation. I've had turns that went a little like: Evoke Mulldrifter, activate Reflector, draw 4. Unearth 'Drifter, activate Reflector, draw 4 more. That's 8 cards for 1, with a 6 damage punch to sweeten the deal.
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