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    [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    Hey guys,

    I'm wondering why Madcap Experiment doesn't see any play.
    It pairs well with Platinum Emperion. It's basically an 8/8 for 4 mana that the opponent has to get rid of (in most cases).

    Postboard Platinum Emperion can be boarded out for Lich's Mirror. With Lich's Mirror Madcap Experiment turns into a draw 7 that resets your mana and your life total. Against certain decks you can switch to the control role via Burning Wish and push the reset button via Mirror afterwards. Here's a list:

    3 Ancient Tomb
    2 City of Traitors
    3 Island
    1 Mountain
    2 Polluted Delta
    1 Misty Rainforest
    4 Scalding Tarn
    2 Volcanic Island
    2 Underground Sea

    3 Madcap Experiment

    1 Platinum Emperion
    2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    4 Omniscience

    4 Force of Will
    3 Thoughtseize

    3 Show and Tell
    4 Burning Wish
    3 Cunning Wish
    1 Impulse
    1 Intuition
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    3 Preordain

    SB:
    1 Lich's Mirror
    1 Enter the Infinite
    1 Show and Tell
    1 Massacre
    1 Pyroclasm
    1 Thoughtseize
    1 Madcap Experiment
    1 Firemind's Foresight
    1 Intuition
    1 Flusterstorm
    1 Release the Ants
    1 Through the Breach
    1 Kozilek's Return
    2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

    Perhaps an entirely new Control deck could be built around the Madcap Experiment + Lich's Mirror interaction.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    not sure how good it is, but if you find a way to float mana while resolving it (trying to find lich's mirror), you can start the game with opening hand + X mana. I suppose you'd want something very good though.

    not really sure what's the best way to exploit a 7 card hand w/ some mana?

    any ideas?
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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    It looks cool but I'm just curious how you'd get back into the game after resolving the Mirror. Draw 7 and 20 life are a good reset but your opponent will still have their board and that usually tends to be more important.

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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    yea i think the only two decks where it could be okay is Burn and UR delver.

    when burn runs out of gas it usually loses pretty bad. if you had a fresh 7 there's a chance you'll get there. might be okay.

    UR delver does the same thing but it at least has some protection and can brainstorm the mirror away if you unluckily draw it.


    just to keep it simple:

    4 Goblin Guide
    4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
    4 Lightning Bolt
    4 Price of Progress
    4 Chain Lightning
    4 Magma Jet
    4 Rift Bolt
    4 Flame Rift
    4 Fireblast
    3 Madcap Experiment
    1 Lich’s Mirror
    20 Mountain
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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    Madcap experiment -> hold priority double fireblast is the dream, until you get your experiment countered haha.

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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    not sure how good it is, but if you find a way to float mana while resolving it (trying to find lich's mirror), you can start the game with opening hand + X mana. I suppose you'd want something very good though.

    not really sure what's the best way to exploit a 7 card hand w/ some mana?

    any ideas?
    This also has the extremely embarrassing 'my Charbelcher revealed Bayou' aspect where some % of the time the Madcap flip doesn't actually put you to 0 and you end up passing the turn with Lich's Mirror in play and nothing else to do. (It's just as bad if not worse if you draw it). If paying 4 mana for a draw 7 was an appealing proposition people would be trying harder to make Diminishing Returns work.

    It might be fun to try it in burn but I don't know how good that is. I don't think it can work in a control deck because I expect that resetting all of your lands would be backbreaking a lot of the time.
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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    Yeah I'm thinking a deck that mad caps into early mirror with floating mana would be sick. I mean it's gotta be like a belcher style deck, but no belcher basically. Or play it in belcher to find more belchers.
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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rascalyote View Post
    Madcap experiment -> hold priority double fireblast is the dream, until you get your experiment countered haha.
    Pretty sure I would just fireblast them twice first with mana floating, hoping to bait out a counter... Not everything should be fancy shmancy holding priority.
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    Interestingly enough, having Madcap and Mirror in your deck potentially has you on a constant loop of playing the game and resetting via Mirror if the opponent can't kill you fast enough before getting the Mirror down. Basically Dr Strange and Dormammu.

    I agree this doesn't seem half bad in Burn, especially against a Control deck where you likely run them out of countermagic by the time it comes to resolving Madcap or a Mirror. A 5 mana artifact is fairly difficult to interact with as well.
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    Re: [SCD] Madcap Experiment

    If you can self exile a bunch of your cards, yeh you might get to very short loops maybe even infinite.

    Sounds janky but maybe there is something good im missing.

    Edit: past in flames exiles... :thinking: maybe something like rubystorm... Mirrorstorm!
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