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    Results and Meta Post-DRS/Probe Banning

    I'll post top 8/16 results after the DRS/Probe ban here, and update the OP with decks' ranking using TCDecks's system (including 6+ round/33+ player tournaments; 1 point given for each round in tournament, and 1 point given for each round won in the top 8). It's mostly for fun to observe what people are playing and winning with rather than showing what one should play, as it's super early, and even later, it will continue to evolve, and in general, meta rank ≠ deck strength. Plus, I'm including all locations and paper + online.

    In total, the first 9 weeks+ post-ban:

    Grixis Control: 563 points
    Miracles: 436
    Death's Shadow: 341
    Death & Taxes: 328
    Grixis Delver: 280
    Sneak & Show: 268
    Lands: 262
    UWx Stoneblade: 259
    RUG Delver: 207
    ANT: 205
    OmniTell: 192
    Dark Depths: 165
    Eldrazi: 164
    U/R Delver: 159
    Goblins: 108
    B/R Reanimator: 106
    Steel Stompy: 95
    Big Eldrazi: 92
    Elves: 85
    12-Post: 82
    Aggro Loam: 77
    Burn: 76
    Infect: 76
    Maverick: 71
    Dragon Stompy: 69
    Merfolk: 68
    TES: 65
    Dredge: 51
    Reanimator: 46
    Pox: 35
    UWx Helm: 26
    Tezzeret Control: 25
    Aluren: 24
    Bomberman: 24
    BUG Control: 24
    BUG Delver: 24
    UWR Delver: 23
    Tin Fins: 21
    Zombardment: 21
    UWx Landstill: 20
    Eldrazi & Taxes: 18
    Enchantress: 15
    U/W Stoneblade/Delver: 15
    Food Chain: 14
    Jund: 14
    Naya Lumberjack: 13
    Mono B Reanimator: 12
    Mono Red Sneak Attack: 9
    Reanimator Depths: 9
    Sapphire Control: 9
    U/B Helm Combo: 9
    Humans: 8
    U/B Ninjas: 8
    BUG Loam: 7
    B/W Deadguy/D&T: 7
    Czech Pile: 7
    Faeries: 7
    Imperial Painter: 7
    Lands/Storm Combo: 7
    Punishing Dack: 7
    Shardless BUG: 7
    Soldier Stompy: 7
    U/B Control/Reanimator: 7
    URx Landstill: 7
    U/W Miracles/Stoneblade: 7
    B/R Storm: 6
    BUG Lands: 6
    High Tide: 6
    Mono U Control/Dark Depths: 6
    Ooze Reanimator: 6
    RUG Cascade: 6
    Slivers: 6
    Tempo Zoo: 6

    The first 3 weeks+ of results post-ban:

    Miracles: 198 points
    Sneak & Show: 157
    UWx Stoneblade: 135
    Grixis Control: 134
    Death & Taxes: 125
    RUG Delver: 101
    Eldrazi: 70
    ANT: 66
    Lands: 66
    OmniTell: 64
    Goblins: 58
    Grixis Delver: 53
    Dragon Stompy: 49
    Dark Depths: 48
    Big Eldrazi: 46
    B/R Reanimator: 43
    Death's Shadow: 39
    Steel Stompy: 38
    Aggro Loam: 36
    Elves: 36
    TES: 36
    U/R Delver: 35
    12-Post: 32
    Infect: 30
    Merfolk: 22
    Dredge: 20
    Maverick: 20
    Pox: 20
    UWx Helm: 19
    Aluren: 16
    UWR Delver: 16
    Reanimator: 15
    Bomberman: 14
    Zombardment: 14
    Tezzeret Control: 11
    BUG Delver: 10
    BUG Control: 9
    Mono Red Sneak Attack: 9
    Reanimator Depths: 9
    U/B Helm Combo: 9
    Eldrazi & Taxes: 8
    Humans: 8
    UWx Landstill: 8
    B/W Deadguy/D&T: 7
    Czech Pile: 7
    Food Chain: 7
    Imperial Painter: 7
    Lands/Storm Combo: 7
    Punishing Dack: 7
    Shardless BUG: 7
    Soldier Stompy: 7
    U/W Miracles/Stoneblade: 7
    BUG Lands: 6
    Burn: 6
    High Tide: 6
    Jund: 6
    RUG Cascade: 6
    Tempo Zoo: 6

    The second 3 weeks of results post-ban:

    Grixis Control: 206 points
    Death’s Shadow: 142
    Grixis Delver: 126
    Death & Taxes: 109
    Miracles: 102
    Lands: 83
    UWx Stoneblade: 69
    U/R Delver: 68
    Sneak & Show: 59
    OmniTell: 58
    Dark Depths: 57
    Steel Stompy: 51
    RUG Delver: 50
    Eldrazi: 47
    ANT: 46
    12-Post: 37
    Burn: 34
    B/R Reanimator: 33
    Reanimator: 25
    TES: 22
    Aggro Loam: 21
    Goblins: 20
    Infect: 17
    Merfolk: 15
    Pox: 15
    Tin Fins: 15
    Big Eldrazi: 14
    BUG Delver: 14
    Elves: 14
    Dragon Stompy: 13
    Bomberman: 10
    Eldrazi & Taxes: 10
    Maverick: 10
    Jund: 8
    Czech Pile: 7
    Faeries: 7
    Food Chain: 7
    U/B Control/Reanimator: 7
    UWx Helm: 7
    Zombardment: 7
    Mono B Reanimator: 6
    Naya Lumberjack: 6
    Slivers: 6
    Tezzeret Control: 6
    UWx Landstill: 6

    The third 3 weeks of results post-ban:

    Grixis Control: 223 points
    Death's Shadow: 160
    Miracles: 136
    Lands: 113
    Grixis Delver: 101
    Death & Taxes: 94
    ANT: 93
    OmniTell: 70
    Dark Depths: 60
    RUG Delver: 56
    U/R Delver: 56
    UWx Stoneblade: 55
    Sneak & Show: 52
    Eldrazi: 47
    Maverick: 41
    Burn: 36
    Elves: 35
    Big Eldrazi: 32
    Dredge: 31
    Merfolk: 31
    B/R Reanimator: 30
    Goblins: 30
    Infect: 29
    Aggro Loam: 20
    BUG Control: 15
    Enchantress: 15
    U/W Stoneblade/Delver: 15
    12-Post: 13
    Sapphire Control: 9
    Aluren: 8
    Tezzeret Control: 8
    U/B Ninjas: 8
    BUG Loam: 7
    Dragon Stompy: 7
    Naya Lumberjack: 7
    TES: 7
    URx Landstill: 7
    UWR Delver: 7
    B/R Storm: 6
    Mono B Reanimator: 6
    Mono U Control/Dark Depths: 6
    Ooze Reanimator: 6
    Reanimator: 6
    Steel Stompy: 6
    Tin Fins: 6
    UWx Landstill: 6

    July 7, 晴れる屋レガシー杯, 35 players: 1.) ANT 2.) Eldrazi 3.) Food Chain 4.) U/R Delver 5.) Grixis Delver 6.) Esperblade 7.) Miracles 8.) Infect

    July 9, MTGO Challenge, 104 players: 1.) Sneak & Show 2.) Sneak & Show 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Aggro Loam 5.) Imperial Painter 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Dredge 8.) Eldrazi 9.) Dragon Stompy 10.) Zombardment 11.) TES 12.) RUG Delver 13.) Dragon Stompy 14.) Miracles 15.) Grixis Delver 16.) RUG Delver

    July 14, LCL July 2018, 46 players: 1.) Sneak & Show 2.) Turbo Depths 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Reanimator 5.) Burn 6.) Goblins 7.) RUG Cascade 8.) B/R Reanimator

    July 14, Let's Get Wasted! @ Prodigy Games, Florida, 48 players: 1.) U/B Helm Combo 2.) Infect 3.) Eldrazi 4.) Lands/Storm Combo 5.) Goblins 6.) High Tide 7.) OmniTell w/ Sneak 8.) TES

    July 14, MTA Legacy Championship @ Guangzhou, China, 129 players: 1.) Tezzeret Control 2.) RUG Delver 3.) B/R Reanimator 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) UWR Stoneblade 6.) Sneak & Show 7.) Sneak & Show 8.) RUG Delver

    July 15, Worcester SCG Classic, 140 players: 1.) Big Eldrazi 2.) U/W Stoneblade 3.) RUG Delver 4.) Goblins 5.) Dark Depths 6.) UWR Stoneblade 7.) B/R Reanimator 8.) Grixis Death's Shadow 9.) UWR Delver 10.) Miracles 11.) Death & Taxes 12.) Sneak & Show 13.) Death & Taxes 14.) Infect 15.) Grixis Death's Shadow 16.) U/W Stoneblade

    July 15, MTA Legacy Invitational @ Guangzhou, China, 115 players: 1.) BUG Delver 2.) Mono Red Sneak Attack 3.) Steel Stompy 4.) Esperblade 5.) B/W Deadguy/D&T 6.) UWR Stoneblade 7.) Miracles 8.) Turbo Depths

    July 15, MTGO Challenge, 105 players: 1.) RUG Delver 2.) Merfolk 3.) Esperblade 4.) Death & Taxes 5.) Miracles 6.) Grixis Control 7.) Lands 8.) Eldrazi 9.) Miracles 10.) OmniTell 11.) ANT 12.) Lands 13.) Lands 14.) Miracles 15.) ANT 16.) U/W Miracles/Stoneblade

    July 15, 《狼狽の嵐》争奪レガシー杯, 70 players: 1.) Death & Taxes 2.) Steel Stompy 3.) Esperblade 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Steel Stompy 6.) ANT 7.) Bomberman 8.) Maverick

    July 15, 関帝前哨戦レガシー - 晴れる屋大阪店, 44 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) UWR Delver 3.) Sneak & Show 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Pox 7.) U/R Delver 8.) U/W Stoneblade

    July 15, MLL #11, 37 players: 1.) Reanimator Depths 2.) U/R Delver 3.) RUG Delver 4.) Dragon Stompy 5.) RUG Delver 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Sneak & Show 8.) Dragon Stompy

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    July 21, Magic Bazar Paris Monthly @ Paris, 33 players: 1.) Esperblade 2.) Humans 3.) Grixis Death's Shadow 4.) Dragon Stompy 5.) Grixis Control 6.) OmniTell 7.) RUG Delver 8.) Tempo Zoo

    July 21, Preservation Series 1K @ Mox Boarding House Bellevue, 48 players: 1.) Sneak & Show 2.) Grixis Control 3.) Aggro Loam 4.) Maverick 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Goblins 7.) Sneak & Show 8.) ANT

    July 22, MKM Series Prague, 227 players: 1.) Elves 2.) Eldrazi 3.) Miracles 4.) Miracles 5.) OmniTell w/ Sneak 6.) Eldrazi 7.) Miracles 8.) BUG Control

    July 22, Philadelphia SCG Classic, 170 players: 1.) BUG Depths 2.) U/W Helm 3.) Miracles 4.) Big Eldrazi 5.) Infect 6.) Elves 7.) Grixis Delver 8.) Big Eldrazi 9.) U/G 12-Post 10.) Death & Taxes 11.) Aggro Loam 12.) Grixis Delver 13.) U/W Landstill 14.) TES 15.) Big Eldrazi 16.) Sneak & Show

    July 22, MTGO Challenge, 83 players: 1.) Big Eldrazi 2.) Death & Taxes 3.) U/W Stoneblade 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) Eldrazi 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) RUG Delver 8.) Death & Taxes 9.) B/R Reanimator 10.) Zombardment 11.) Lands 12.) Punishing Dack 13.) Merfolk 14.) TES 15.) Sneak & Show 16.) U/R Delver

    July 22, CLC 2018 - Etapa 6 - Itajaí @ Blackout Games, 38 players: 1.) RUG Delver 2.) Reanimator 3.) Grixis Control 4.) U/R OmniTell 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Eldrazi 7.) Grixis Control 8.) Dragon Stompy

    July 22, Legacy at Grand Prix Chiba, 231 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Miracles 3.) Lands 4.) Miracles 5.) OmniTell 6.) Grixis Delver 7.) Grixis Control 8.) Miracles

    July 28, 第二期関西帝王レガシー - 晴れる屋大阪店, 88 players: 1.) ANT 2.) Dragon Stompy 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Miracles 5.) Colorless 12-Post 6.) U/R Delver 7.) Bomberman 8.) Pox

    July 28, Staples @ Collector Legion (Gardena, California), 46 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Eldrazi 3.) Dredge 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) Esperblade 6.) Sneak & Show 7.) Sneak & Show 8.) ANT

    July 28, Millennium Games Legacy Series @ Rochester NY, 44 players: 1.) Lands 2.) TES 3.) UWr Stoneblade 4.) OmniTell 5.) Grixis Control 6.) UWr Stoneblade 7.) Lands 8.) Punishing Maverick

    July 28, The Last Sun 2018予選 - 晴れる屋トーナメントセンター#2, 72 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Grixis Control 3.) Eldrazi & Taxes 4.) Dark Depths 5.) ANT 6.) BUG Death's Shadow 7.) Miracles 8.) Sneak & Show

    July 28, LML Sexta etapa 22/7 @ TCGeek, 35 players: 1.) Elves 2.) Miracles 3.) Goblins 4.) ? 5.) Turbo Depths 6.) Dredge 7.) Esperblade 8.) Merfolk

    July 28, 37º Alpha Legacy @ Magic Store (Brasil), 40 players: 1.) U/W Helm 2.) U/W Stoneblade 3.) Steel Stompy 4.) Shardless BUG 5.) Sneak & Show 6.) B/R Reanimator 7.) BUG Lands 8.) Jund

    July 29, MTGO Challenge, 109 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Aluren 3.) RUG Delver 4.) Miracles 5.) Miracles 6.) RUG Delver 7.) Grixis Control 8.) Miracles 9.) Soldier Stompy 10.) Sneak & Show 11.) B/R Reanimator 12.) Sneak & Show 13.) Death & Taxes 14.) Grixis Control 15.) Steel Stompy 16.) ANT

    July 29, レガシー神トライアル, 83 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) U/B Death's Shadow 3.) Grixis Control 4.) Colorless 12-Post 5.) Grixis Control 6.) Aluren 7.) Aggro Loam 8.) Pox

    July 29, Monthly July @ London, 42 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) Miracles 3.) Elves 4.) Lands 5.) Aggro Loam 6.) Goblins 7.) Goblins 8.) Lands

    August 4, Legacy Preservation Series @ Mox Boarding House Seattle, 43 players: 1.) Tin Fins Depths 2.) UWR Stoneblade 3.) U/G 12-Post 4.) Big Eldrazi 5.) Burn 6.) Lands 7.) Lands 8.) RUG Delver

    August 4, ネームドトーナメント トミザワ・レガシー杯, 53 players: 1.) Dark Depths 2.) TES 3.) Eldrazi 4.) Grixis Control 5.) Grixis Control 6.) Tin Fins 7.) Goblins 8.) Tezzeret Control

    August 5, MTGO Challenge, 100 players: 1.) RUG Delver 2.) Merfolk 3.) Lands 4.) Reanimator 5.) Grixis Control 6.) Miracles 7.) Grixis Control 8.) Sneak & Show 9.) Miracles 10.) Grixis Delver 11.) B/R Reanimator 12.) Infect 13.) Faeries 14.) TES 15.) Death's Shadow 16.) Big Eldrazi

    August 5, 晴れる屋レガシー杯, 46 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Miracles 3.) Lands 4.) TES 5.) Miracles 6.) B/R Reanimator 7.) Miracles 8.) Miracles

    August 5, The Last Sun 2018予選 - ファミコンランド小松店, 33 players: 1.) Mono G 12-Post 2.) U/W Stoneblade 3.) Pox 4.) Grixis Control

    August 5, Pro Series @ Fire & Dice (Winnetka, California), 33 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Goblins 3.) Eldrazi 4.) Turbo Depths 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) U/W Landstill 7.) Sneak & Show 8.) BUG Delver

    August 5, Eternal Challenge II - DF @ PvP, 47 players: 1.) Burn 2.) Pox 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) OmniTell w/ Sneak 5.) Burn 6.) Death's Shadow 7.) Dragon Stompy 8.) Slivers

    August 11, 《汚染された三角州》[EXP]争奪レガシー杯, 86 players: 1.) Sneak & Show 2.) Reanimator 3.) Jund 4.) Grixis Control 5.) Food Chain 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Colorless 12-Post 8.) ?

    August 11, レガシー東海王決定戦, 67 players: 1.) Death's Shadow 2.) U/W Stoneblade 3.) RUG Delver 4.) Eldrazi 5.) U/R Delver 6.) Grixis Control 7.) Grixis Control 8.) Elves

    August 11, LCL August 2018, 46 players: 1.) RUG Delver 2.) BUG Delver 3.) Steel Stompy 4.) Grixis Control 5.) ANT 6.) Sneak & Show 7.) Goblins 8.) Grixis Control

    August 12, MTGO Challenge, 104 players: 1.) ANT 2.) Grixis Delver 3.) Eldrazi 4.) Turbo Depths 5.) Sneak & Show 6.) Turbo Depths 7.) Grixis Delver 8.) Sneak & Show 9.) Steel Stompy 10.) Grixis Delver 11.) Death & Taxes 12.) Grixis Control 13.) Elves 14.) Steel Stompy 15.) Burn 16.) U/R Delver

    August 12, Known Magicians Clan - 98th, 113 players: 1.) Lands 2.) Grixis Control 3.) Miracles 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) Miracles 6.) U/R Delver 7.) U/W Stoneblade 8.) Esperblade

    August 12, [Los Angeles, CA] Knight Ware - August, 69 players: 1.) Grixis Delver 2.) U/W Stoneblade 3.) U/R Delver 4.) Death's Shadow 5.) Esperblade 6.) Grixis Control 7.) Miracles 8.) B/R Reanimator

    August 12, Win A Dual 29 @ Tuebingen, Germany, 46 players: 1.) Aggro Loam 2.) Lands 3.) W/R Death & Taxes 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Aggro Loam 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Merfolk 8.) Miracles

    August 16, 夏休みレガシー杯, 58 players: 1.) Dark Depths 2.) Grixis Control 3.) Colorless 12-Post 4.) Miracles 5.) Aggro Loam 6.) Mono B Reanimator 7.) B/R Reanimator 8.) Grixis Control

    August 17, レガシー神トライアル, 51 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Grixis Delver 3.) Grixis Delver 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Death's Shadow 6.) Death's Shadow 7.) Steel Stompy 8.) Death's Shadow

    August 18-19, Eternal Weekend Asia 2018, 626 players: 1.) ANT 2.) Grixis Delver 3.) Lands 4.) Death's Shadow 5.) U/R Delver 6.) Infect 7.) OmniTell 8.) Miracles 9.) Grixis Control 10.) Bomberman 11.) Miracles 12.) U/R Delver 13.) RUG Delver 14.) Steel Stompy 15.) U/R OmniTell 16.) ANT 17.) Grixis Control 18.) OmniTell 19.) Eldrazi & Taxes 20.) Death's Shadow 21.) Death & Taxes 22.) Grixis Control 23.) Death's Shadow 24.) Eldrazi 25.) GWb Maverick 26.) Grixis Delver 27.) U/R Delver 28.) Lands 29.) Death's Shadow 30.) Grixis Control 31.) Turbo Depths 32.) Grixis Delver

    August 19, Dallas SCG Classic, 93 players: 1.) Lands 2.) Grixis Control 3.) U/B OmniTell 4.) Death & Taxes 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Death & Taxes 8.) Steel Stompy 9.) Miracles 10.) U/G 12-Post 11.) Dragon Stompy 12.) Grixis Control 13.) Death's Shadow 14.) Death & Taxes 15.) U/W Stoneblade 16.) UWr Helm

    August 19, MTGO Challenge, 84 players: 1.) Death's Shadow 2.) W/R Death & Taxes 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) Czech Pile 6.) Esperblade 7.) Zombardment 8.) ANT 9.) Death's Shadow 10.) Steel Stompy 11.) U/B Control/Reanimator 12.) Death's Shadow 13.) Death's Shadow 14.) Death's Shadow 15.) Lands 16.) Turbo Depths

    August 19, The Last Sun 2018予選 - 晴れる屋トーナメントセンター#3, 68 players: 1.) Grixis Delver 2.) U/R Delver 3.) Reanimator 4.) Grixis Control 5.) Death's Shadow 6.) RUG Delver 7.) OmniTell 8.) B/R Reanimator

    August 19, CLC - Etapa 7 - Floripa @ Palhoça, 44 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Grixis Delver 3.) Eldrazi 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Burn 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Naya Lumberjack 8.) OmniTell

    August 25, 汚染された三角州》[EXP]争奪レガシー杯, 50 players: 1.) Infect 2.) Grixis Control 3.) Death's Shadow 4.) TES 5.) Miracles 6.) Reanimator 7.) Lands 8.) Grixis Delver

    August 25, Nerd Rage Gaming Championship Trial, 90+ players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Eldrazi 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Enchantress 5.) ANT 6.) Grixis Control 7.) Grixis Delver 8.) B/R Reanimator

    August 26, MTGO Challenge, 69 players: 1.) ANT 2.) Merfolk 3.) Grixis Control 4.) Big Eldrazi 5.) Death's Shadow 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Death's Shadow 8.) UWR Delver 9.) Big Eldrazi 10.) Lands 11.) Grixis Landstill 12.) Lands 13.) Sneak & Show 14.) Grixis Delver 15.) Turbo Depths 16.) Turbo Depths

    August 26, Channel Fireball Legacy 2K @ Channel Fireball, 82 players: 1.) Merfolk 2.) ANT 3.) Death's Shadow 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) Death's Shadow 6.) Goblins 7.) Grixis Control 8.) Maverick

    August 26, Arizona Eternal Magic Champs @ Phoenix, AZ, 35 players: 1.) U/R Delver 2.) Burn 3.) Colorless 12-Post 4.) Aggro Loam 5.) Aggro Loam 6.) Grixis Control 7.) RUG Delver 8.) Lands

    August 26, レガシー神トライアル, 60 players: 1.) B/R Reanimator 2.) U/R OmniTell 3.) U/R Delver 4.) OmniTell 5.) Miracles 6.) Miracles 7.) Steel Stompy 8.) Death & Taxes

    August 26, ネメシスレガシー - 晴れる屋大阪店, 39 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Sneak & Show 3.) Goblins 4.) Burn 5.) ANT 6.) Mono U Control/Dark Depths 7.) U/R OmniTell 8.) ANT

    August 26, London Legacy Monthly Aug 2018 @ London, 39 players: 1.) Sapphire Control 2.) Punishing Maverick 3.) Goblins 4.) Death's Shadow 5.) Tin Fins Depths 6.) OmniTell w/ Sneak 7.) Death's Shadow 8.) Death's Shadow

    August 26, 4° Liga Paulista @ Epic Game (São Paulo, Brazil), 50 players: 1.) Esperblade 2.) BUG Control 3.) Sneak & Show 4.) Burn 5.) Elves 6.) Grixis Control 7.) Ooze Reanimator 8.) U/W Landstill

    August 30, LML Sétima Etapa @ UG Cardshop, 37 players: 1.) OmniTell 2.) Esperblade 3.) Burn 4.) U/W Stoneblade 5.) B/R Reanimator 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Merfolk 8.) RUG Delver

    August 31-September 1, Grand Prix Richmond, 842 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) Lands 3.) Miracles 4.) Death's Shadow 5.) RUG Delver 6.) U/W Stoneblade 7.) Eldrazi 8.) Grixis Control 9.) Grixis Control 10.) U/W Stoneblade/Delver 11.) Grixis Delver 12.) Eldrazi 13.) Grixis Control 14.) RUG Delver 15.) Death's Shadow 16.) Grixis Delver

    September 1, Known Magicians Clan - 99th, 83 players: 1.) Maverick 2.) Lands 3.) Grixis Control 4.) Death & Taxes 5.) U/W Stoneblade 6.) Grixis Control 7.) ANT 8.) ANT

    September 1, 《ライオンの瞳のダイアモンド/Lion's Eye Diamond》争奪レガシー杯, 46 players: 1.) Grixis Control 2.) Miracles 3.) Grixis Control 4.) Burn 5.) Grixis Control 6.) B/R Storm 7.) Grixis Delver 8.) ?

    September 1, Community Pub Legacy @ Sydney, 36 players: 1.) Goblins 2.) Tezzeret Control 3.) Lands 4.) RUG Delver

    September 2, MTGO Challenge, 80 players: 1.) Big Eldrazi 2.) ANT 3.) Miracles 4.) Grixis Control 5.) Elves 6.) Lands 7.) Grixis Control 8.) BUG Control 9.) BUG Loam 10.) Elves 11.) Miracles 12.) Grixis Control 13.) Lands 14.) Turbo Depths 15.) Sneak & Show 16.) Lands

    September 2, 晴れる屋レガシー杯クラシック, 66 players: 1.) Infect 2.) U/R Delver 3.) Sneak & Show 4.) Dark Depths 5.) Sneak & Show 6.) U/R Delver 7.) Miracles 8.) RUG Delver

    September 2, Swiss Magic Masters 2018 @ Interlaken, 80 players: 1.) Infect 2.) Death's Shadow 3.) ANT 4.) Miracles 5.) Dragon Stompy 6.) Enchantress 7.) Dark Depths 8.) Death's Shadow

    September 2, 4Seasons Summer 2018, 141 players: 1.) Lands 2.) Death's Shadow 3.) Dredge 4.) Dark Depths 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Maverick 7.) Death's Shadow 8.) Aluren 9.) Lands 10.) Death's Shadow 11.) Death & Taxes 12.) OmniTell 13.) Miracles 14.) Dredge 15.) Eldrazi 16.) Elves

    September 8, Preservation Series 1K @ Mox Boarding House, 56 players: 1.) U/W Stoneblade 2.) U/B Ninjas 3.) Miracles 4.) Death's Shadow 5.) U/G 12-Post 6.) Miracles 7.) Mono B Reanimator 8.) Turbo Depths

    September 8, ネームドトーナメント フジタ・レガシー杯, 56 players: 1.) Dark Depths 2.) U/R Delver 3.) Grixis Delver 4.) U/R Delver 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Death & Taxes 7.) Death's Shadow 8.) ?

    September 9, MKM Series Paris 2018 - Legacy Main Event, 194 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) Death & Taxes 3.) U/R Delver 4.) U/B OmniTell 5.) Grixis Control 6.) Maverick 7.) Grixis Delver 8.) Grixis Control

    September 9, MTGO Challenge, 82 players: 1.) Death's Shadow 2.) Grixis Delver 3.) Grixis Control 4.) B/R Reanimator 5.) ANT 6.) Grixis Delver 7.) Dredge 8.) Elves 9.) Death & Taxes 10.) Miracles 11.) Big Eldrazi 12.) Naya Lumberjack 13.) Dredge 14.) Lands 15.) Aggro Loam 16.) Grixis Control

    September 9, Legacy Open @ Time Vault Games, 47 players: 1.) Death's Shadow 2.) ANT 3.) Grixis Control 4.) Grixis Control 5.) Death & Taxes 6.) Grixis Control 7.) Grixis Delver 8.) Merfolk

    September 9, レガシー神トライアル, 78 players: 1.) OmniTell 2.) ANT 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Grixis Control 6.) Lands 7.) U/R OmniTell 8.) Miracles
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    Re: Results and Meta Post-DRS/Probe Banning

    Great work.

    Seems that today the scheme is control switch back to Miracle and Rug, combo switch back to Sneak and Omniscences, and prison remain with Lands, D&T and Stompy.
    DDepths resist, SFM is back.

    Still missing some pure aggro?

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    Re: Results and Meta Post-DRS/Probe Banning

    Quote Originally Posted by Zulabnar View Post
    Great work.

    Seems that today the scheme is control switch back to Miracle and Rug, combo switch back to Sneak and Omniscences, and prison remain with Lands, D&T and Stompy.
    DDepths resist, SFM is back.

    Still missing some pure aggro?
    Pure aggro like Zoo is never coming back. Control (Miracles) and combo are too much of a stopping force. UR Delver and Burn will probably make a comeback though, if you're willing to consider those decks as pure aggro.
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    I agree, really nice work, Scott!

    One thing that strikes me is that when interpreting the numbers it makes some sense to group the different UW-based Stoneblade variants together.. You end up with 41 or 48 in total depending on if you want to include the Miracles/Stoneblade versions or not. That way the blue-white Stoneblade group of decks ends up in second place. I don't see as much overlap between the other deck archetypes in the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pettdan View Post
    I agree, really nice work, Scott!

    One thing that strikes me is that when interpreting the numbers it makes some sense to group the different UW-based Stoneblade variants together.. You end up with 41 or 48 in total depending on if you want to include the Miracles/Stoneblade versions or not. That way the blue-white Stoneblade group of decks ends up in second place. I don't see as much overlap between the other deck archetypes in the list.
    Totally agree. Esper and jeskai is usually UW with some control elements in the third colors. Bant would be another thing as it relies on dorks and possibly a green gsz/creature toolbox. Miracle is another deck though.
    Great job Scott!

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    Thank you, great work

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    Great work.

    Seems that today the scheme is control switch back to Miracle and Rug, combo switch back to Sneak and Omniscences, and prison remain with Lands, D&T and Stompy.
    DDepths resist, SFM is back.

    Still missing some pure aggro?
    I think that role is currently occupied by the Wee Eldrazi and ZOmbardment.

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    Where are Elves in all this?

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    Where are Elves in all this?
    0-2 drop'ing.

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    Thanks for the nice words; you're all too kind.

    Update: Two tournaments added

    July 14, 晴れる屋レガシー杯, 67 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) U/R Delver 3.) OmniTell 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) U/R Delver 6.) Miracles 7.) 12-Post 8.) Dragon Stompy

    July 14, Let's Get Wasted! @ Prodigy Games, Florida, 48 players: 1.) U/B Helm Combo 2.) Infect 3.) Eldrazi 4.) Lands/Storm Combo 5.) Goblins 6.) High Tide 7.) Omni Sneak & Show 8.) TES

    And by popular demand, U/W Stoneblade, UWR Stoneblade, and Esperblade have been merged into UWx Stoneblade.

    I'll add the results of Quest for Power #4 at MTGFirst from July 15 when they're posted.

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    Update: two tournaments added

    July 15, 《狼狽の嵐》争奪レガシー杯, 70 players: 1.) Death & Taxes 2.) Steel Stompy 3.) Esperblade 4.) Grixis Delver 5.) Steel Stompy 6.) ANT 7.) Bomberman 8.) Maverick

    July 16, 晴れる屋レガシー杯, 52 players: 1.) 12-Post 2.) Esperblade 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) OmniTell 5.) Grixis Control 6.) OmniTell 7.) Goblins 8.) Goblins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    tournaments addedJuly 14, 晴れる屋レガシー杯, 67 players: 1.) Miracles 2.) U/R Delver 3.) OmniTell 4.) Sneak & Show 5.) U/R Delver 6.) Miracles 7.) 12-Post 8.) Dragon Stompy
    I think there is a problem, UR Delver lists 4 gitaxian probe... either the list or the date is wrong. Because of this, I don't know if we should include this tournament in the count.

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    Counterbalances and Chalices everywhere.

    Congrats, team; we're back where we were two years ago.
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    Card Kingdom has a 1k coming up this Saturday iirc, should be a good source of 50-75 deck format analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulabnar View Post
    Still missing some pure aggro?
    I'm confused by this - what is 'Pure Aggro'? Because if stuff like Stompy, Affinity, and Goblins doesn't qualify, I'm not sure what you mean.
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    One tournament added, and rankings in the OP updated:

    July 14, LCL July 2018, 46 players: 1.) Sneak & Show 2.) Turbo Depths 3.) Death & Taxes 4.) Reanimator 5.) Burn 6.) Goblins 7.) RUG Cascade 8.) B/R Reanimator 9.) Death & Taxes 10.) RUG Delver 11.) Steel Stompy 12.) Burn 13.) Dragon Stompy 14.) Steel Stompy 15.) Steel Stompy 16.) Eldrazi & Taxes

    I used the top 16 results for this tournament because it was available and because I previously did so with the larger tournaments. Do you guys want me to do that with smaller tournaments like this 46-player one, or just use the top 8 since it's a 6-rounder? FYI, using TCDecks's & the Source's system, you get a point for each round (plus a point for each win in the top 8), so results from smaller tournaments already get fewer points; it's just a question of including places 9-16 or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by talpa View Post
    I think there is a problem, UR Delver lists 4 gitaxian probe... either the list or the date is wrong. Because of this, I don't know if we should include this tournament in the count.
    Good catch. It's strange that the other U/R Delver list from the tournament doesn't have Probes, if we're assuming the date's wrong. I'm gonna remove the tournament's results as we don't know if it's a card input error or date input error from pre-ban; I can add it later if it's amended. I'm personally hoping that one U/R Delver pilot was just more intimidating than the other one and refused to take his Probes out.
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    I don't really get the hype for RUG Delver.
    The deck is outdated, Mongoose is by far the worst creature in the format, seriously, a 3/3 shroud for G that doesn't go online until turn 3, at least? In 2018?
    It does have A LOT of bad matchups, deck is VERY hard to play and most of the users are just not competent enough.
    I think that is also a factor for the huge success of D&T, deck is very good and probably tier1, but with the huge amount of RUG around, it definetly have a lot of free wins.
    I get the nostalgia factor, but when people will realize that the deck just lose to almost every piece of hate, have a super slow clock because plays 4 1/1 and a t2 Goyf is not always a 4/5 but a lot of times is a 2/3, I think we will prolly see a VERY different meta, something more close to be "solved".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellomdian View Post
    I'm confused by this - what is 'Pure Aggro'? Because if stuff like Stompy, Affinity, and Goblins doesn't qualify, I'm not sure what you mean.
    Goblins is definitely on the aggro spectrum, but it's more of a control deck than aggro. It's difficult to explain this without playing it yourself.

    The other two decks play Chalice and other forms of disruption which I suppose is what prevents them from being considered pure aggro. I think Affinity is an aggro deck, but Stompy really isn't anymore.

    A pretty big reason why pure aggro decks are completely out of Legacy is in part because Wizards hasn't printed any aggro cards in the supplemental sets they've printed that have contained Baleful Strix, Leovold, Dack Fayden, and True-Name Nemesis. I don't understand why WotC keeps printing dumb blue cards when there's far more experimentation in WR, GR, WB, and RB. If they wanted to they could print busted aggro cards, or at least some non-blue midrange cards, in these sets so maybe there could be some more experimentation in Legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeckBird View Post

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    I don't understand why WotC keeps printing dumb blue cards when there's far more experimentation in WR, GR, WB, and RB. If they wanted to they could print busted aggro cards, or at least some non-blue midrange cards, in these sets so maybe there could be some more experimentation in Legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsu View Post
    Lets give them another chance Commander 2018 incoming
    Since I remember seeing people working at WotC mention multiple times that the reason aggro doesn't do well in eternal formats is because of combo, I don't think they're even aware of the actual issue. Zoo could lose almost all the time to fast combo and still be playable if it had enough other good matchups.

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