View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    I think giving players a week notice before making the announcement is more responsible than saying nothing and then just 'boom, banned, you bought your cards and now can't play them.' This way people on the fence about purchasing will likely hold off, rather than speculating about 'when will they address this'? It isn't perfect, but it's better than cold turkey.
    I also think it's fine, it lets players operating on a small budget sell out of high-risk cards to avoid losing a lot of money while players who don't care can take that risk, for them it barely matters.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    I'm actually surprised Modern isn't part of the discussion for their announcement. I'm half-expecting at every B&R announcement that modern will be dissolved as a format and Pioneer will become their new 'extended' format of choice.

    I think giving players a week notice before making the announcement is more responsible than saying nothing and then just 'boom, banned, you bought your cards and now can't play them.' This way people on the fence about purchasing will likely hold off, rather than speculating about 'when will they address this'? It isn't perfect, but it's better than cold turkey.
    I am fairly sure that they are dealing with the online-first formats intentionally, because Modern is still a Grand Prix format so it still has relevance in paper, while the relevant results from their perspective for Legacy is pretty much Magic Online.

    Of course, right now paper Magic is virtually irrelevant for data purposes, so the cynical answer is that they need to sell Lurrus in paper.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    ayy, assuming Lurrus does get booted on Monday I did for once do everything right in deciding to wait it out this time and quit Legacy entirely until the inevitable ban. Last time I actually bought the Breaches and Freezes and never got to play them before the hammer hit. At least they were cheap...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    I am fairly sure that they are dealing with the online-first formats intentionally, because Modern is still a Grand Prix format so it still has relevance in paper, while the relevant results from their perspective for Legacy is pretty much Magic Online.

    Of course, right now paper Magic is virtually irrelevant for data purposes, so the cynical answer is that they need to sell Lurrus in paper.
    There is nothing stopping them from converting all Modern GP's into Pioneer GP's, especially once they get Pioneer developed into Arena. I don't know if that is literally their plan, but it would make perfect sense. Modern has become another Legacy for them: a problematic older format to manage. MTGO will continue to exist for Vintage/Legacy/Modern but Arena will be Standard/Pioneer.

    Hell, they could even use covid19 as their excuse for converting all planned Modern GP's into Pioneer. Never let a good crisis go to waste!
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    They want to sell Modern Horizons-like sets, otherwise the audience is just the Commander players and a more direct product serves that purpose better.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    They want to sell Modern Horizons-like sets, otherwise the audience is just the Commander players and a more direct product serves that purpose better.
    Pioneer Horizons

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    Pioneer Horizons

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    Stop living in 2021 and get ready for an exciting new format because

    Coming in June 2025

    Newfangled Horizons

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I appreciated this reddit satire.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by reddit
    An Elesh Reborn Hover-Rare (voiced by Tara Strong)
    this sent me into orbit

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    I appreciated this reddit satire.
    That was brilliant!
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    You sir are a ninja of fine quality.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    I appreciated this reddit satire.
    Shared with playgroup, was appreciated. Good find.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    I appreciated this reddit satire.
    Absolutely priceless. Particularly enjoyed this one:

    We go back and forth subverting the usual rules of Magic the Gathering. Luckily the two 15-cost creatures in my hand can be played for free on prime number turns, keeping his attacks at bay. My Guardevore the Evergrowing is a 12/13, as it gets */+1 for each Companion in the game. Both these creatures have ETBs of some description.

    Followed by this:

    People only remember interaction between cards they play, but no one remembers certain cards can interact between players.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Small sample, only 8 decks, latest legacy prelim has got 75% of decks with Lurrus, including Elves.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tourname...2152369#online

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmlima View Post
    Small sample, only 8 decks, latest legacy prelim has got 75% of decks with Lurrus, including Elves.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tourname...2152369#online
    It's kind of funny that the "Most Played Cards" section below those decks for whatever reason doesn't take into account companions
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    Pioneer Horizons

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    Pioneer Homesteads or riot.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Pioneer Homesteads or riot.
    I'll next-level you:

    Pioneer Homelands or mutiny.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    I'll next-level you:

    Pioneer Homelands or mutiny.
    Full re-edition of homelands so that the set is legal in pionneer? Sign me in, I have all the cards already!! (I Stopped playing magic for 10 years after buying a box of homelands and pulling only crap).

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    I'll next-level you:

    Pioneer Homelands or mutiny.
    I thought next-leveling was supposed to be better?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    I thought next-leveling was supposed to be better?
    I got a very good laugh at this!

    Are you trying to imply that Homelands wasn't the best expansion ever? Shame on you.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    I appreciated this reddit satire.
    Just for "Fun" - what would be the best deck if you can run as many companions as you wanted? Some sort of Lurrus Yorion Zirda nightmare?

    Edit - actually, doubt that would work. The best way to abuse Yorion includes Strix and Ice-Fang. . . probably just Lurrus Yorion then . . .
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