View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by schweinefettmann View Post
    ....but hopefully, theyd unban frantic search. If Im gonna hope, gotta hope big!
    Yeah I think that could be pretty safe, and maybe will give more space to solidarity and spiral tide

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Every time I see "no changes," I kind of get a sinking feeling a little bit. I like seeing things shaken up, especially in Legacy where it's rare you get an unbanning.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsu View Post
    After recently seeing a list of GB depth splashing Blue just for 4 Brainstorms and a stifle. I think we are at a point when BS must go.
    Also if Echos of Eons exist. Why not unban Memory Jar? Lets go for the big fuck up, instead of durdling with Earthcraft, Mind twist or Survival.

    I really want something big for this summer.
    i'm right there with you brother ^^^

    brainstorm's sins: sensei's divining top, probe, deathrite shaman, dig through time and treasure cruise

    now imagine an unbanning of the above along with frantic search, earthcraft, mindtwist, fastbond and even mana drain

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Not this thread again...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by alvoi View Post
    Yeah I think that could be pretty safe, and maybe will give more space to solidarity and spiral tide
    Oooh with new flashback time twister I'm not so sure about this anymore
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  6. #21566

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Oooh with new flashback time twister I'm not so sure about this anymore
    I didn't think of it. But surely the broken card is the timetwister, not the careful study

  7. #21567

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I argue that the format hasn't had chance to even remotely settle from the bans of last year because the last 2 or 3 sets have all been extraordinarily impactful on the format and the matter of what is good or maybe even too good isn't even close to being answered yet. We will have to see how Karn, Dreadhorde Arcanist and Narset change the format in the long run. My suspicion that one of these cards will reach a point of power that's inacceptable at some point in the near future similiarly to DRS. Karn's absurdity has been widely recognized but my impression is that the brokenness of Arcanist isn't fully appreciated. It's capable of pulling of stuff it's most certainly not meant to do with all the 0CMC spells like Vision etc. and I expect this to become a problem at some point. Narset on the other hand has got an effect which should have never been printed on a CC3 card which is so easy to cast. I think people will eventually get severly upset about one or more of these cards and that they could therefore suffer a similiar fate as DRS once the meta has settled.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by non-inflammable View Post
    brainstorm's sins: sensei's divining top, probe, deathrite shaman, dig through time and treasure cruise
    Knock it off. If you think Dig and Cruise are anywhere close to the others, you're fooling yourself.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce View Post
    Knock it off. If you think Dig and Cruise are anywhere close to the others, you're fooling yourself.
    Actually, Brainstorm is so good, it caused all of those cards to be banned in a format it has never even been legal in, as well as in Legacy!

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I was thinking about this. Brainstorm and Legacy. Now while I know that the idea here is that shit needs somewhere to live. Transgressive cards, blah blah. I do not think Brainstorm will get banned ever in the format, its just too much a part of Legacy, good or ill. I want that in plain English. I am past fighting over this card.

    That said, Pauper is now a sanctioned format. Brainstorm is legal and if the stated reason for having the card is that transgressive things need a place to live, well Legacy is not the only game in town now. Not that I expect that it will change anything, but its an interesting thought.

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    Just for clarification as to wtf I am talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Forsythe
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    "It's one of the "pillars of the format" that makes it unique and players tolerate/love. It's like Brainstorm in Legacy. Every saturation metric we could ever invent would point to it being banned, but people love it. Transgressive stuff needs a place to live."

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Brainstorm's actually the weakest of the big three cantrips in Pauper, with Preordain being the default go-to. In Pauper you actually need a justification for playing Brainstorm. Shows how much the fetches being slower matters.
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    Yeah, an insanely powerful block which put the "derp!" factor in Legacy completely over the top.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Actually, Brainstorm is so good, it caused all of those cards to be banned in a format it has never even been legal in, as well as in Legacy!

    Ancestral Recall aint do that.

    Brainstorm > Ancestral Recall, don't @ me.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by non-inflammable View Post
    i'm right there with you brother ^^^

    brainstorm's sins: sensei's divining top, probe, deathrite shaman, dig through time and treasure cruise

    now imagine an unbanning of the above along with frantic search, earthcraft, mindtwist, fastbond and even mana drain
    I actually miss winning with Probe and losing to DRS.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...ent-2019-07-08

    No changes for Legacy, Bride from Below banned in Modern.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    lol @ modern

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...ent-2019-07-08

    No changes for Legacy, Bride from Below banned in Modern.
    That is sad for Legacy...

  17. #21577

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsu View Post
    That is sad for Legacy...
    Don't worry. We just have to travel back to August 26th, 219 for the next announcement.

    From the article: "Next B&R Announcement: August 26, 219"
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by easysantiago View Post
    Don't worry. We just have to travel back to August 26th, 219 for the next announcement.

    From the article: "Next B&R Announcement: August 26, 219"
    that's when bride from below got married

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    No changes for Legacy, Bride from Below banned in Modern.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I don't think any changes are expected in the near future especially since there will be a legacy GP a month from that announcement
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    Top quality german restraint there.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by easysantiago View Post
    Don't worry. We just have to travel back to August 26th, 219 for the next announcement.

    From the article: "Next B&R Announcement: August 26, 219"
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