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Seems like a healthy top 8, all decks you can choose to easily beat with a few SB slots. Besides, it‘s always nice to see a top 8 full of decks that are trying to do something.
It's also Depths, their deck has too many moving pieces to adapt to defend itself. If people want to beat it, they can. It doesn't really have intrinsic staying power and even among tier 1-1.5 decks, it's got pretty horrid matchups vs Lands and DnT. If we're giving Depths enough credit to routinely keep Wrenn decks out of top 8s by itself, just snipe 'em with a DnT meta call.
Yeah, let's ban the deck that had less than half the top 8 representation as the top deck last month lul
Jesus fucking Christ, can everyone get their left nut to tell their right nut to calm down. Dark Depths is not a bannable card in legacy.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
Right, so if Wrenn loses to Depths, and Depths loses to DnT, and DnT loses to Wrenn...then there's no issue. In reality though, a Wrenn deck can beat both of these strategies with SB cards. Depths doing well every so often isn't that concerning, they have a ~15% winrate pre-loaded vs DnT (in the case that the deck was 'too good') and Crop Rot/Reclaimer/Hexmage/Mox/Depths/Stage is way too many slots invested in doing the thing to ward off a maindeck or sideboard strategy that wants to beat them.
Yeah, that meta was so known the #6 Dragon Stompy deck ran 2 maindeck Blood Sun over Magus of the Moon, likely as Depths hate.
No, you are objectively wrong. porcupinetreeman has shown us all the error of our ways and the card MUST BE BANNED FOR THE GOOD OF ALL THAT IS HOLY. Until you know, next month when it gets pushed out of the format and no one looks at it again for 3 months. But who cares that the deck is fragile to a land whos popularity is growing.
Nope, I'm saying that since the best deck in the format is moving towards having Crop Rotation and Karakas, Depths is looking like it's going to have a harder time steamrolling events unaposed.
The only time things get banned in Legacy is when it's proven the format is unable to self correct. If this is seen as one of those times it's Wrenn that's more likely to be deemed an issue, not Depths.
>W6/Plague Engineer is printed
>Decks that play them push Depths worst matchups out of the format
>Depths is good against these
>Depths is played
Clearly Depths is inherently too good for legacy, the braintrust that is the source has done it again
I can't imagine Dark Depths being banned atm. There just aren't a ton of White decks for a few different reasons and those are the best cards for trying to interact with Turbo Depths. Once you see more Karakas and friends Depths will lose meta share.
New B&R announcement coming up. I'm pretty sure we are all aware of this song and dance. Nothing will change. There just aren't many cards on the ban list they could unban that would impact much of anything and a handful that wouldn't do much. Oh well.
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I don't see any changes happening to Legacy. There isn't really any noise about anything being too good; there is some squeaking about Dark Depths in here, but it doesn't even come close to a saturation point for banning. There will always be a 'best' combo deck in Legacy whether it's Storm, Show and Tell, Reanimator, or Dark Depths. They take turns depending on metagame shifts (speaking of which, Storm is on the rise again due to the mid-range slugfests giving them a window.)
Modern I think has had enough shake-up lately to last about a year. I predict no changes there either.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
I have been watching vids of the Uzra deck, the Paradoxical one. While I do believe that no changes will be made this cycle the playstyle of the deck will force intervention soon. Even if it comes up against a natural predator I think it's strong enough to stay on the top tables and thus, be reacted to.
After laughing at how awful it was watching Golos in standard on SCG thing yesterday, I imagine Field of the Dead is getting the axe - sooner rather than later.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
I'm out of touch...Mox Amber finally coming into it's own. Looks like it's a $50 card now. I also find it hilarious that it's still listed as a 'control' deck as Whir Prison on mtgtop8, lol. Emry is an insane addition to that deck. Sneaky combo deck is a combo deck, not a control deck.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
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