Brainstorm
Force of Will
Lion's Eye Diamond
Counterbalance
Sensei's Divining Top
Tarmogoyf
Phyrexian Dreadnaught
Goblin Lackey
Standstill
Natural Order
So true. My fingers were also itchin to get some good fakes of P9, just so I could play in sanctioned Vintage. I mean good fakes are detectable under loope, with several tests, etc, who in their right mind would stop the game, call the judge and say that guy is playing with proxies. And even if they do, f*** you, what makes you the authority to detect fakes.
ps: f*** you reserved list and f*** wizards; all hail our future overlords - quality fakes.
Yeah, except if they don't reprint those rare cards, they don't make any money off of them. Unless you think players are, incentivized by the desire to get a Force of Will, will be opening up Magic 2015 which... has no Force of Will. Your logic here doesn't seem to make much sense.
A good card having high secondary market value only keeps people opening up booster packs when it's in those booster packs, and even that only benefits Wizards of the Coast when it's booster packs they're currently producing (high value for Chord of Calling currently benefits them; high value for Horizon Canopy currently does not). And, heck, sometimes the opposite occurs. If a set is unpopular, cards in it can be worth more because fewer copies were opened. Tarmogoyf and the rest of the things from Future Sight are worth so much because Future Sight wasn't a popular set at the time it was printed, so their price goes up thanks to the resulting scarcity. Similarly, I think Brimaz would be cheaper if Born of the Gods was a more popular set due to more copies being in circulation.
It isn't like Vintage is limited to p9. There are still other valuable cards as well. And most of the highly priced Legacy cards are still used in Vintage. I think Vintage/Legacy are too small of a market. Essentially since Vintage reached the point of unsanctioned proxy events as regular things and there wasn't a large influx of fakes. Could also be that proxies devalues fakes. Not sure how long until Legacy reaches that point. Maybe when coupled with Modern gaining more and more popularity there may be enough of a market there for counterfeiters to exploit in the future.
Things are probably fine for the next 20 years however if people never sell there collections then eventually you reach the point where there is not enough staples available for new players. Sure that might be in 50 years and we will all be in our 90's but you reach the point where new players would be waiting for someone to drop dead so cards go back into circulation.
Those of us that have been playing for 15+ years probably have fond memories of using our old cards. Decks like Thresh and Pox may have gotten new cards (Delver, Lilly) but the core stratagy of the deck has not really changed for a decade. However if stores can not fire regular 8-man non-proxy events why would new players want to buy into Legacy?
Looking at the other thread about the Arazonia meta and I see lots of Burn and D&T (Ports were cheap until last year) and that echos what I see locally lots of mono-colored decks and a few BUG decks running mostly on shocks form the people that already own Goyf.
My Legacy Decks of choice: Pox, Miracles, D&T or Lands.
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Another 50 years? That's a bit unrealistic.
Magic is still going very strong, but I doubt it keeps going forever. They already have severe creativity problems after 20 years, hence all the recycling we're seeing lately. I can't see them going on for another 50 years or longer. And if Magic is no longer in print, the popularity of all the older cards (aside from collector pieces) is going to drop as well.
All assuming Wizards doesn't do RL reprints at some point or the Chinese aren't taking over (again, at some point in the future, we will get actual high quality fakes since it prints money Wizards isn't willing to print out of stupidity).
My Legacy Decks of choice: Pox, Miracles, D&T or Lands.
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Don't you know that it's somehow secretly good for the game? /sarcasm
I don't think that MtG may survive for fifty years, definitely not as a mainstream thing. It all depends on the level of infantility across the first world, and it's also about what happens during wartime years, when people will be selling their stuff for dirt cheap, once they'll realize that bread or atb are more important for their children than sitting on a pile of cardboard.
I came to a conclusion that nowadays situation is what WotC really like and there's nothing that may change it, unless massive prints of fakes endager the whole game, the whole Wizards' money-printing industry. I don't even think that there's some (more or less hidden) agenda to kill the Eternal or w/e, but basically Wizards look at the ghosts of the past (not only P9, but also every design mistake be it Yawgmoth's Will, Strip Mine, Mana Vault or any other sick card) and somehow dislike how they "spoil" the game. ALso, there are hundreds of other CCGs and Magic stands above all of them not only because it's the first one, but for other reasons, one of them being the legendary cards of the past. Frankly, I'm sure that WotC lrealized long ago that destroying the status of such cards like P9 (by reprinting them) won't do them any good, as one aspect of MtG history/aura/w-e would be lost. Moreover this opens window for further reprints and this is a slippery slope they're not going to step on. Because further reprints might mean further blah blah, you know, all the legendary haze surrounding MtG will vanish. Magic in twenty+ years might revolve around the same concepts like it did ever since 1995, with the strong (yet unseen) "base" of the P9-like stuff that gives the game an aura of something exceptional.
7 Fetchlands
11 Islands
1 Tropical Island
4 High Tide
4 Brainstorm
4 Mental Misstep
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Reset
4 Impulse
4 Frantic Search
4 Force of Will
3 Cunning Wish
3 Meditate
2 Brain Freeze
1 Flash of Insight
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1 Meditate
1 Turnabout
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Hunting Pack
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Maybe replace a land, and Flash for 2 Remands, or Opt/Peek/Visions of Beyond. Only way to fit Misstep in Solidarity is to add Frantic Search so you can flush away all the dead crap during a combo. Seems good.
Please Wizards?
On a more serious note, discussion on the unbanning of Frantic Search? I see High Tide (obv) and RUG Delver running it, or even some horrible Snapcaster+Frantic Search midrange-control deck.
edit; forgot the Brain Freeze.
I don't think that there is any deck out there that would play Frantic Search except High Tide. In Reanimator a 3 mana careful study is not good. And why should RUG Delver play a 3cc spell that creates card disadvantage? In my eyes Frantic Search is a completely fine unban, because it won't make High Tide oppressive. it would only decrease the number of Delver, Storm and S&T decks a little bit, because they are all bad against High Tide.
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