All B/R update speculation.

[now]

Latest SCG top 8: 5 Jace control decks, 1 show and tell and 2 prison decks.

Edit: top 16: 8 Jace control decks, 1 show and tell, 2 tempo and 5 prison decks.

To broaden that summary somewhat, the top 16 was

1. Grixis Control
2. Miracles
3. Miracles
4. Miracles
5. Omni-Tell
6. Death and Taxes
7. Jeskai Stoneblade
8. Metalworker
9. Miracles
10. Lands
11. Tezzerator
12. Grixis Control
13. BUG Delver
14. Miracles
15. Metalworker
16. Merfolk

Five Miracles in the top 16 with three in the top 4 is a bit much, but otherwise the top 16 was quite diverse with 10 different archetypes.

[Dice_Box]

You linked to the wrong Lands thread. All the same though, good to see we live on. The lack of Choke in the side does surprise me though. With the Meta how it is that is I feel one of the strongest options for the side.

Two MUD? Chalice is really becoming a thing. That does say something. Do not know how long this Meta can hold if MUD is cut loss on it. I think we will see a shift soon.

[Hrothgar]

Chalice of the Void is a broken card, totallly asymmetric in MUD's favor.

The rest of the top16 show a various meta, with 10 different archetypes.

Very good imho.

[apple713]

Chalice of the Void is a broken card, totallly asymmetric in MUD's favor.

The rest of the top16 show a various meta, with 10 different archetypes.

Very good imho.

hope you're trolling. COTV is a very balanced card. It forces a higher curve in exchange for low curve protection...these tradeoffs make magic the game that it is.

[iamajellydonut]

Chalice of the Void is a broken card, totallly asymmetric in MUD's favor.

Lightning Bolt is a broken card, totally asymmetric in UWR's favor.

[Zombie]

Latest SCG top 8: 5 Jace control decks, 1 show and tell and 2 prison decks.

Edit: top 16: 8 Jace control decks, 1 show and tell, 2 tempo and 5 prison decks.

The rest of the top16 show a various meta, with 10 different archetypes.

Very good imho.

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[Hrothgar]

[*]Grixis Control
[*]Miracles
[*]Omni-Tell
[*]Death and Taxes
[*]Jeskai Stoneblade
[*]Metalworker
[*]Lands
[*]Tezzerator
[*]BUG Delver
[*]Merfolk

10 different archetypes.

10 different archetypes.

[rufus]

Brainstorm is at 24/32. All must be well again...

[btm10]

God I'm happy to see Tezz in the top 16. Deck is just super underplayed and is far and away the best Chalice deck.

[Bobmans]

God I'm happy to see Tezz in the top 16. Deck is just super underplayed and is far and away the best Chalice deck.

One of the few blue based list NOT running Brainstorm ^_^

[iamajellydonut]

One of the few blue based list NOT running Brainstorm ^_^

With the only other blue Legacy deck not running Brainstorm also represented in the same tournament.

[Patrunkenphat7]

I'm loving this metagame. I'm just hoping Wizards doesn't hop on the "ban Dig Through Time" wagon. I know it's completely personal preference, but I prefer to play in a meta where the most popular decks are casting Digs rather than cascading into recalls.

[FoolofaTook]

I'm loving this metagame. I'm just hoping Wizards doesn't hop on the "ban Dig Through Time" wagon. I know it's completely personal preference, but I prefer to play in a meta where the most popular decks are casting Digs rather than cascading into recalls.

I'm hoping they finally go with the long over-due banning of Brainstorm and leave everything else as it is for the moment. DTT and Ancestral Vision both get worse without Brainstorm providing consistency and I'd like to see a meta in which people tried to play 4 DTT without Brainstorm in the mix. It's not at all clear that any of the blue draw/selection would be over-powered in the absence of Brainstorm. Ponder would come closest but I'd like to see the meta with just Brainstorm banned for at least a cycle.

[sdematt]

Chalice decks can be pretty clunky so Im glad to see the variance gods shined in their favour ;)

[iamajellydonut]

Chalice decks can be pretty clunky so Im glad to see the variance gods shined in their favour ;)

That's only if you're running something dumb like MUD or Moggcatcher. I agree with btm that Tezzerator is a grossly underplayed deck, and a lot of that is because it does run Chalice and other sweet tech at the expense of very little variance.

[Hrothgar]

I'm loving this metagame. I'm just hoping Wizards doesn't hop on the "ban Dig Through Time" wagon. I know it's completely personal preference, but I prefer to play in a meta where the most popular decks are casting Digs rather than cascading into recalls.

Quote, I love all this metagame.
Imho is various and balanced.

[Admiral_Arzar]

That's only if you're running something dumb like MUD or Moggcatcher. I agree with btm that Tezzerator is a grossly underplayed deck, and a lot of that is because it does run Chalice and other sweet tech at the expense of very little variance.

MUD is brutally powerful, as 2 copies in the top 16 indicates. It also suffers from less consistency issues than most other Chalice-based decks considering there is no need for colored mana and the deck also has a considerable amount of redundancy in addition to its raw power. The fact that it absolutely crushes Miracles preboard helps its case as well. I would never play Moggcatcher in a serious tournament though - Imperial Painter is much stronger if you have a liking for the Blood Moon.

[btm10]

MUD is brutally powerful, as 2 copies in the top 16 indicates. It also suffers from less consistency issues than most other Chalice-based decks considering there is no need for colored mana and the deck also has a considerable amount of redundancy in addition to its raw power. The fact that it absolutely crushes Miracles preboard helps its case as well. I would never play Moggcatcher in a serious tournament though - Imperial Painter is much stronger if you have a liking for the Blood Moon.

Tezz's Miracles matchup is also favorable, but it has lots of ways to smooth its draws that MUD doesn't, and loses to itself less as a result. It also overcomes the need for colored mana with (in Wisniewski's list) 6 colored mana rocks. MUD is a fine deck, but the standard deviation on MUD's draws is so large that taking it to a large event is unappealing for a lot of people. Sure, the top 20% of its draws crush anything not packing specific hate, but the middle 50% are even against the field (and highly contingent on opposing draws as a result) on top of being highly sensitive to discard and Wasteland, and the balance of its draws are unspeakable atrocities.

[Undomian]

Tezz's Miracles matchup is also favorable, but it has lots of ways to smooth its draws that MUD doesn't, and loses to itself less as a result. It also overcomes the need for colored mana with (in Wisniewski's list) 6 colored mana rocks. MUD is a fine deck, but the standard deviation on MUD's draws is so large that taking it to a large event is unappealing for a lot of people. Sure, the top 20% of its draws crush anything not packing specific hate, but the middle 50% are even against the field (and highly contingent on opposing draws as a result) on top of being highly sensitive to discard and Wasteland, and the balance of its draws are unspeakable atrocities.

I'm a bit biased (obviously) but I really do like where my maindeck is right now in terms of variance reduction. The percentage of the deck dedicated to producing colored mana is identical to that of the traditional UB list, but I feel like the addition of Mox Diamond and the third color as a result of that helps the deck's consistency more than it hurts it.

[maharis]

Played three miracles decks in three rounds tonight. I went 2-0-1, but with adequate practice and refining I think that deck is on its way to the banhammer. Just hope they don't take Top or DTT.