View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scordata View Post
    I'm not even trolling - but I want to see Frantic Search come off the list just so I can flash it back with Snapcaster.

    I hope Misstep stays legal, cause it limits how much garbage I have to play against.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I would be fine with MM banned, just so I can have 4 free slots in Goblins :D

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Wow Ponder is going to be banned in Modern, didn't see that coming. The plot thickens...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    So, when does the new B/R get posted?
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingslayer View Post
    So, when does the new B/R get posted?
    Around midnight I guess, it's not up yet.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes View Post
    Wow Ponder is going to be banned in Modern, didn't see that coming. The plot thickens...

    Another reason not to play modern.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Actually the reason they are showing you Ponder so early is to indicate that they are unbanning it in Vintage.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shax View Post
    Actually the reason they are showing you Ponder so early is to indicate that they are unbanning it in Vintage.
    I don't keep up with the Vintage scene so I wasn't aware of that. Why would it get unrestricted in Vintage?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Currently I'm playing EDH and Legacy... Vintage used to be fun until wizards made storm and it sucked the fun out of the format.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Or they are just showing Ponder because they like the art and because "pondering" is kind of related to the ban list.

    Maybe it is unbanned in vintage though.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer View Post
    Currently I'm playing EDH and Legacy... Vintage used to be fun until wizards made storm and it sucked the fun out of the format.
    Shops and blue decks are dominant now. Dark Ritual decks need a lot of help currently.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer View Post
    Currently I'm playing EDH and Legacy... Vintage used to be fun until wizards made storm and it sucked the fun out of the format.
    Shops and blue decks are dominant now. Dark Ritual decks need a lot of help currently.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    They could be switching preordain and ponder on the vintage restricted list i.e. ponder unrestricted and preordain restricted (not sure what that would accomplish really).

    Ponder is a fair card. I don't see it getting banned in modern and if it gets banned in standard I'll lol.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    Another reason not to play modern.
    Legacy still exists, that's the only reason I need.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes View Post
    Legacy still exists, that's the only reason I need.
    I'll be a sad panda if brainstorm gets banned in legacy. Or mental misstep. Sorta defeats the purpose of eternal formats if you are always wondering if your older card will get banned.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zilla View Post
    You seem to be missing the distinction between a threat and an answer. One of them requires answering, and the other, typically, does not.
    Mental Misstep is a threat, to your tempo in Legacy.

    Mental Misstep is the opposite of the moxes, the most similar card to it. Moxes let you skip ahead a turn. MM let's you steal your opponents first turn. It offers the same tempo swing as a mox, just in reverse and at the cost of two life.

    I am almost certain it will get the axe.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by joemauer View Post
    Mental Misstep is a threat, to your tempo in Legacy.

    Mental Misstep is the opposite of the moxes, the most similar card to it. Moxes let you skip ahead a turn. MM let's you steal your opponents first turn. It offers the same tempo swing as a mox, just in reverse and at the cost of two life.

    I am almost certain it will get the axe.


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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    I would not complain if Goblin Recruiter, Earthcraft, Land Tax, Worldgorger Dragon, Mind Twist, or Black Vise were to come off the list.
    It would be sweet if, instead of banning anything, they unbanned all these cards.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by BKclassic View Post
    It would be sweet if, instead of banning anything, they unbanned all these cards.
    I'd rather wizards added stuff to give us reasons to play other colors rather than take away from the format.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    If Mental Misstep was a "threat" because it has an impact on any aspect of the game (in your post: tempo), then almost every card in Magic could be considered a threat to any kind of ressource. Duress is a threat to the cards in your hand, Stone Rain to your lands, Mind Funeral to your library.

    Because such a definition completly invalidates the term "threat" it is not used in the way you use it. In general Magic, "threats" are cards that will win the game if not answered.
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