View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    How long till the B&R announcement is gonna be released? 1:20 hours?
    The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
    1. Discuss the unbanning of Land Tax Earthcraft.
    2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
    3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
    4. Stifle Standstill.
    5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
    6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
    7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes View Post
    I was just thinking about this last night and I came to the conclusion they missed a golden opportunity to make a werewolf to get at storm combo.

    Anti-Storm Human R
    If an opponent has played three or more spells this turn flip ~This card~.
    1/1
    /Flipped/
    Anti-Storm Werewolf
    Whenever an opponent plays a spell, if they have already played another spell this turn ~This card~ deals 3 damage to them.
    3/2
    The absolute best card they could print for Legacy atm, in my opinion;

    Run Amuck
    2RR
    Instant
    You may exile a red card from your hand rather than pay Run Amuck's mana cost.
    Gain control of target instant or sorcery spell. You may choose new targets for it.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Would be played in UR delver and blue is too strong arguments would not stop.

    Seriously, when is the announcement?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes View Post
    I was just thinking about this last night and I came to the conclusion they missed a golden opportunity to make a werewolf to get at storm combo.

    Anti-Storm Human R
    If an opponent has played three or more spells this turn flip ~This card~.
    1/1
    /Flipped/
    Anti-Storm Werewolf
    Whenever an opponent plays a spell, if they have already played another spell this turn ~This card~ deals 3 damage to them.
    3/2
    Not to nitpick, but that card should not be an Innistrad Werewolf, it doesn't follow the same transformation criteria that all other werewolvs in Innistrad does.

    Seriously though, I get your point, and I would applaud and cheer if a similar card was released; non-blue decks need a proper answer to combo that does not cost BB or GW or 1W.

    I would also very much like to know when the statement is released? I ought to go to bed, but who could, when it's so exciting?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    It's not enough to be a storm hoser. Lots of cards hose storm and aren't maindeckable or even sideboardable. You want cards that are maindeckable and therefore relevant against other decks; hence the limited red pitch-spelljack, which is in flavor for the color, fast enough to be relevant against storm and good against other decks.
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    Yeah, that red card is awesome and would be playable in all formats. Excellent design.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    The absolute best card they could print for Legacy atm, in my opinion;

    Run Amuck
    2RR
    Instant
    You may exile a red card from your hand rather than pay Run Amuck's mana cost.
    Gain control of target instant or sorcery spell. You may choose new targets for it.
    I can see some uses for this, but it's hardly a game changer? Elaborate on your intended usage? If it's to 'counter' Storm spells, you need to change the wording.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    @Intet: Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meekrab View Post
    I can see some uses for this, but it's hardly a game changer? Elaborate on your intended usage? If it's to 'counter' Storm spells, you need to change the wording.
    You don't counter Tendrils; you counter an Ad Nauseam, or if needs must a Chant or discard spell. Meanwhile, you can also use it to divert a Hymn to Tourach, gain card parity and hand advantage by taking a Brainstorm, or just misdirect a removal spell. Even in a non-green deck it's a hard counter for GSZ.

    There are some cards it wouldn't hit, like Show and Tell and Wrath of God, but it would be flexible enough to be maindeckable as a two or three of and give red a bit of depth it's currently lacking.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by bilb_o View Post
    Would be played in UR delver and blue is too strong arguments would not stop.

    Seriously, when is the announcement?
    In about another hour. I hope Zac Hill has more sense than LaPille.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Ah I misunderstood the card. I was all "derp most cards you want to steal aren't targetted!" >_>

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    I have this sick feeling that I'm not going to get play with my Delvers anymore...

    I think if we see one ban tonight it's going to be Delver or a far distant possibility, Snapcaster Mage. Either way I'll be sad :(

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Innistrad Block Constructed, Standard, Extended, Legacy, Vintage
    No changes

    Modern
    Punishing Fire is banned.
    Wild Nacatl is banned.

    Imokaywiththis.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Wild Nacatl in Modern, huh? Silly Wizards.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Phew, thank God...

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Legacy
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    Hell yeah!

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    haha the modern bans are hilarious tbh. Nacatl ban is the same as the old ban of Kird Ape.

    Did punishing fire / Willow own the format or something?

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    Oh, yeah... That's the good stuff... Major sigh of relief there.

    But, yeah, and no Punishing Fire? Modern has such a weird ban list.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Disappointing burning wish did not come off for vintage.

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    modern is turning into quite the joke. at this point they've come full circle, ban hammers fot every archtype. just start over ... ban top, skullclamp, emrakul, jitte and sfm. see what perkolates to the top.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Can you post the link? Any changes to vintage?
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