SB cards that get boarded in get more use than wish targets lets be honest. I'm pretty sure anyone who has ever played this deck knows this.
Is there anyway to metagame toward Countertop decks, while still keeping the consistency and ability to beat zoo? I realize empty the warrens is supposed to help this, but since many lists play explosives and/or firespout... its difficult.
I just won a Japanese foil Recurring Insight. I'll be done with college in two weeks, which means I'll be playing again. I'll let you know what I think about the card then.
hello there!
i've read some of the pages in this thread.
and i think this is the appropriate thread
for me to post my deck.
after our big local legacy tournament here
in the Philippines last march 27, 2010, i suddenly
decided to play a combo deck for the next big local legacy
tournament. as i browsed the net searching for a
feasible deck for me to use, i learned that most of the
powerhouse combo decks were using the following:
LED
burning wish
infernal tutor
underground sea
fetches
ok. most of these cards that i saw were not present in my pool.
determined to have a combo deck, i searched my pool
for cards that can i use/ include in my deck. and here's what
i have:
sorceries
1 tendrills of agony
1 empty the warrens
4 rite of flame
3 duress
4 ponder
instants
1 ad nauseum
4 mystical tutor
4 brainstorm
1 reclaim
3 pact of negation
1 chain of vapor
4 dark ritual
4 cabal ritual
4 manamorphose
artifacts
4 chrome mox
4 lotus petal
1 chromatic sphere
2 Sensei divining top
lands
4 city of brass
4 gemstone mine
2 undiscovered paradise
and as for my SB here's my list
4 tormod's crpyt
1 slaughter pact
1 PTE
1 deathmark
1 disfigure
1 echoing truth
1 extirpate
1 silence
1 REB
1 hurkyl's recall
1 lightning bolt
1 duress
i know my list above is not that solid as
compared to the list in this link http://www.deckcheck.net/list.php?ty...&format=Legacy
i just want to ask for your thoughts/ suggestions about this build of mine.
^_^
i already played this build in three weekly legacy tournaments here.
the 1st tournament was in pasig were i finished 4-1.
the second was in los banos were i finished an awful 0-4.
and lastly, in cavite were i ended 2-2-1.
It looks pretty solid considering it's what you were able to scrounge up from what you have, but I think you should not run SDT. It hurts too much with City of Brass and depletes your Gemstone Mines. If you want an additional cantrip, run something like Serum Visions instead.
Also, are the 4 Tormod's Crypt in the SB entirely for the Reanimator match-up? Because you should be faster than all the other graveyard decks.
This deck more resembles Nausea than TES though, with Ad Nauseam thrown in instead of Helm of Awakenings and Meditates.
The Source: Your Source for "The Source: Your Source for..." cliche.
Also, Cabal Ritual in a deck without fetches seems poor. I'd almost suggest Seething Song (yeah, I know you don't get relevant mana from it) instead.
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Instead of Forked Bolt, you could try Flame Slash, which is the other R Sorcery from Rise that deals 4 to a creature. I'm not sure what hatebears you're scared at that have that toughness, but it's something that can be kept in mind for hatebears in nongreen, nonwhite colors, or even a particularly dangerous beater.
@ Ozymandias
flame slash is a nice weapon against those creature who
has thoughness x/4 and below. but i'd rather kill (for an
example) teeg or cannonist in my opponent's end of turn
rather than in my 1st main phase.
@ mchainmail
thanks for the explanation about the fetch and cabal ritual harmony.
now i understand why they put fetches in this deck - for threshold
purposes.. hehehe im so noob when it comes to combo... :)
@ kicks
long time no hear/talk man! i bet you already heard of the various legacy
tournaments that are scheduled on may16 (LCA, molino cavite), on may22
(TFF 2nd event, BCI makati), and on june12 (side event GP manila, SMX MOA).
hope to see you play again with us. :)
regarding your comment, yup the tormods are there for the ichorid match-up and
reanimators. :)
[QUOTE=paeng4983;455564@ mchainmail
thanks for the explanation about the fetch and cabal ritual harmony.
now i understand why they put fetches in this deck - for threshold
purposes.. hehehe im so noob when it comes to combo... :)[/QUOTE]
And for their synergy with SDT and Brainstorm.
The Source: Your Source for "The Source: Your Source for..." cliche.
I played in the Vestal event yesterday with 129 people. I was in contention the last round and would've been the 7th or 8th seed if I had won. My opponent top decked a well time'd EE to win the game.
Maindeck Empty the Warrens over IGG was incredible all day long.
Recurring Insight was a dead sideboard slot.
i played my build in a local legacy here,
and it was only then that i began to
understand the power of ETW.
instead of waiting for my mystical tutor
brainstorm and ponders for digging and
fetching AD, a 1st turn 6 8 10 gobs
off ETW's storm 3 4 5 spells
[petal, rite of flame, rite of flame, manamorphose,
ETW = 10 nasty goblin tokens! :) i love it!]
token can really be devastating.
during the month of april, i always go
for the AD-tendrills way - which i had a
difficulty in executing it because of the
counterwalls and disrupt effect here in
our meta.
i might use this deck again for this weekend's
major tournament here in the philippines.
by the way, here's my results
at yesterday's game
rd 1 zoo
i was able to build the lethal storm count needed but i
mis-use and mis calculate my mana sources. as a result i wasn't able to cast tendrills
rd 2 sui
was able to go off on both turn two. tendrills ftw
rd 3 elf combo
not just one but two thorns on his table - it really sucks big time.
rd 4 merfolks
wasn't able to go off because of his ton of permission spells.
rd 5 sui
1st turn ETW producing 6 and 8 gobs tokens gave me the win need
to end my day with a 2-3 win-loss card.
I made top four in my local tonight. I was trying out Eye of Nowhere in the sideboard. I actually lost a game because it wasn't Infernal Tutor. I'll be making the switch back.
Once again, the maindeck Warrens was amazing.
"I just shot Marvin in the face!"
"Why the fuck'd you do that??"
SB:1 Diminishing Returns
SB:1 Ill-Gotten Gains
SB:1 Tendrils of Agony
SB:1 Empty the Warrens
SB:1 Grapeshot
SB:1 Krosan Grip
SB:1 Wipe Away
SB:2 Xantid Swarm
SB:1 Infernal Tutor
SB:1 Chain of Vapor
SB:1 Duress
SB:2 Shattering Spree
SB:1 Deathmark
Infernal was Eye. I was just trying something new, I saw it in someones list and thought I'd give it a go.
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