Strongest/Most broken generals?

[Ectoplasm]

Who do you guys think the strongest generals in EDH are? And what does it depend on?
Some generals like Gwendlyn Di Corci enable the use of some sick colour-combinations while still doing something marginally useful (going apeshit stormcombo style, while being able to cast a general that does something relevant if you have shitty draws) while others like Uril basically say 'build a deck around me and beat face'.

There's a shitload of EDH side-events around where I live and it might be fun to partake in them from time to time, but I've never really bothered checking out the 'EDH metagame' (if there is one) except on MWS. If I were to ever fork over any of my hard-earned cash on an EDH side-event I'd love to have some more insight in the subject. I play Arcum myself and I think he's up there among the best decks to play, and I'm working on Iname, Death Aspect (still not satisfied) which I think can be completely broken but I'd love to hear some comments by the enlightened minds at the Source.

I personally think Azami and Rofellos are the current best generals, based on my (mostly casual) real-life EDH experiences and MWS play. What do you guys think?

[Nightmare]

Who do you guys think the strongest generals in EDH are? And what does it depend on?
Some generals like Gwendlyn Di Corci enable the use of some sick colour-combinations while still doing something marginally useful (going apeshit stormcombo style, while being able to cast a general that does something relevant if you have shitty draws) while others like Uril basically say 'build a deck around me and beat face'.

There's a shitload of EDH side-events around where I live and it might be fun to partake in them from time to time, but I've never really bothered checking out the 'EDH metagame' (if there is one) except on MWS. If I were to ever fork over any of my hard-earned cash on an EDH side-event I'd love to have some more insight in the subject. I play Arcum myself and I think he's up there among the best decks to play, and I'm working on Iname, Death Aspect (still not satisfied) which I think can be completely broken but I'd love to hear some comments by the enlightened minds at the Source.

I personally think Azami and Rofellos are the current best generals, based on my (mostly casual) real-life EDH experiences and MWS play. What do you guys think?

As a long-time Azami player, I'll honestly say this:

If you can add black to the deck by playing any number of other generals, do it. It makes the "broken storm deck" far, far more broken. As such, any of the 5c Generals are inherantly more capable of making a dumb storm deck than Azami, or a stupid control deck.

[Mirrislegend]

Are we talking about true EDH, with it's 4-player free-for-all madness? Or 1v1 EDH? Cuz the most powerful 1v1 generals, such as Rofellos, Azami, Arcum, and Zur, end up playing 1vs3 players at once in the 4-player game: nobody wants to auto lose to them, so everyone gangs up on them.

For 4player EDH, I think the best generals are ones like Sisay and Sens Triplets, and maybe Thraximundar.

[Ectoplasm]

Are we talking about true EDH, with it's 4-player free-for-all madness? Or 1v1 EDH?

Both, basically. Also I'd like to think that in a perfect world, everybody would be playing equally good (or broken, if you may) generals in an FFA so nobody would discriminate.

[badjuju]

I just starting playing EDH and was doing a bit of homework.

What I've read (so far) includes these generals as top tier:

Rofellos
Rhada
GAAIV
Arcum Daggson
Erayo
Vendilion Clique
Azami
Zur
Sharuum

I'm sure that there are more, but these are the ones that float around the most often for competitive 1v1.
Basically the best strategies are ones that focus on denial or combo, as Nightmare stated.

[Mystical_Jackass]

Rafiq
Godo
Karthhus
Rofellos
Braids (no longer, but she's a bi*ch lol)
Sharuum
All suck! lol

Erayo, you might as well play Winter Orb while you're at it and paint a giant bullseye on your forehead :P Since you're basically telegraphing what you're gonna do to them lol

Now good generals vs "generals that make good decks" is a different story >.<

[herbig]

Azusa, Lost But Awesome

[DukeDemonKn1ght]

Why is Braids like the only potential general that's banned? I mean, yeah, she's strong... But was she really breaking the format??

[Koby]

Braids is the only general, that if you ride the faerie dragon and pop her out on turn 1 or 2, will win you the game no matter what.

[Otter]

Why is Braids like the only potential general that's banned? I mean, yeah, she's strong... But was she really breaking the format??

The only thing Braids does is decrease interaction and she's damn good at it. She serves no other purpose than to Smokestack people out of the game before they even get started. It's detrimental to the whole "fun multiplayer brawl" concept that the format tries to cater towards.

[AngryTroll]

Horde of Notions is the "best" of the five-color generals, and decent enough for a control deck.

As mentioned, Uril, Azami, and Rofellos are all pretty silly. Gaddock Teag can be a real beating against control, but makes you play silly green and white creatures, so meh.

[Sims]

Why is Braids like the only potential general that's banned? I mean, yeah, she's strong... But was she really breaking the format??

I won a 5 player chaos EDH game once by doing this with Braids:

My turn 1: Swamp, Sol Ring, Charcoal Diamond.
Their turn 1's: lands, cipt lands, etc, go.
My turn 2: (Drew mana crypt). Crypt, Swamp, Braids, Bitterblossom, go.
Everyone else: concede.

[(nameless one)]

Zur aka Dr. Strange could get pretty broken...

Hes so good, he even made the Legacy Crossover :P


If they printed enough rebels, Lin Sivvi might get there. Recurring, Toolboxing key rebels is really good.

I just wish that WoTC prints more rebels.

[Mnemon]

I just wish that WoTC prints more rebels.

There were timeshifted rebels in Futuresight so you can still hope.

What about Ashling the Pilgrim? She can do some early beating and will be
a fatty + massremoval and big damage in the lategame. Or is she outclassed
by other red generals like Godo or Kumano?

[Bahamuth]

Azusa, Lost But Awesome

Azusa is awesome. Does anyone have an Azusa EDH?

[Bryant Cook]

I'm surprised Godo isn't getting more love. He's absolutely retarded, ask the people around 'Cuse what they think of Protection: Your deck.

[Pastorofmuppets]

No mention of Sedris yet? For shame! he's fuck-busted in 1v1 as a control piece. I just wish there were more good Evoke creatures in those colors.

[chris_acheson]

If they printed enough rebels, Lin Sivvi might get there. Recurring, Toolboxing key rebels is really good.

I just wish that WoTC prints more rebels.

I have a Lin Sivvi deck. She's a good general for 1v1 games. Pretty hilarious against my friend's Rafiq deck. You've got Whipcorder, Defiant Vanguard, pro black/red gliders, Outrider en-Kor + Task Force/Cho-Manno, and Children of Korlis for defense. Once you've built up your mana base and gotten enough guys into play, Mirror Entity serves as the win condition.

It's less impressive in larger multiplayer games, mainly because of the number of wrath effects running around. The deck can recover from being wrathed, but it's slow to do so. One piece of tech that I want to put in is Changeling Hero, simply so that I can recruit it and champion Sivvi in response to a wrath, speeding up my recovery by a turn.

Other than that weakness, the only thing that I feel is really missing is a rebel that can destroy artifacts/enchantments.

[whienot]

Isn't Lin-Sivvi + Mirror Entity (rebel) + other random rebels busted as hell?

Edit: Ninjutsu

[johanessen]

Gaddock Teeg is quite broken and so lame ...

But I like Zur's brokeness