[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[Claymore]

Speculators gotta speculate.

[MaximumC]

Speculators gotta speculate.

This is probably a three-step process:

1. Mishra's Bauble goes crazy high in price due to Modern play, so at least some people (myself included) look at Urza's Bauble and say, "Well, if I ever want some of these, I'd better grab some at bulk prices now. Who knows what the silly market will do next?" Thus some part of the online stock is depleted. (I use them in a casual Saheeli Oath deck because it plays very nicely with Saheeli, Titan, and Arcane Denial.)

2. Someone top 8s using Urza's Bauble in a legacy deck. I forget which one.

3. Two new groups now go to buy the card: those who didn't know it existed before and those who want to build the deck.

From there, the supply has already been hit and so speculators can easily buy out the whole market. Boom, now it's gonna be a 5 dolla card.

[Ephemeron]

This is probably a three-step process:
2. Someone top 8s using Urza's Bauble in a legacy deck. I forget which one.

I believe it's a W/B Bomberman list that needs as many 0 mana artifacts that are even remotely playable as possible to power up Mox Opal and Monastery Mentor.

[Ace/Homebrew]

I believe it's a W/B Bomberman list that needs as many 0 mana artifacts that are even remotely playable as possible to power up Mox Opal and Monastery Mentor.

The lists I've seen (keeping in mind that I do not Vintage) actually abuse it with Paradoxical Outcome. I haven't seen any Paradoxical Outcome lists that run Auriok Salvagers, but it wouldn't shock me if people have been making hybrid lists.

[Megadeus]

It's the bomber man deck mostly. It got on camera over the weekend on SCG and wrecked face

[H]

The lists I've seen (keeping in mind that I do not Vintage) actually abuse it with Paradoxical Outcome. I haven't seen any Paradoxical Outcome lists that run Auriok Salvagers, but it wouldn't shock me if people have been making hybrid lists.

People are playing Outcome in Legacy? Who are these savages?

[mistercakes]

the trick is just staying current with the new brews before the community at large "discovers" them. i got my baubles about 12 weeks ago for 25 cents each.

[Ace/Homebrew]

People are playing Outcome in Legacy?

Vintage

Links:
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=23383&iddeck=181492
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=23026&iddeck=178208
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=22578&iddeck=174457

[Megadeus]

the trick is just staying current with the new brews before the community at large "discovers" them. i got my baubles about 12 weeks ago for 25 cents each.

I simply bought mine for a bad revolt Zoo deck. Come to find out this terrible card has value now

[Mr Miagi]

Hello darkness my old friend.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcyIptW-yIQ

tl, dr: foil Grim Monoliths are now 1k$+

[Sigar]

Porphyry Nodes is on the rise! I believe it's underplayed in both Modern and Legacy.

[Mr Miagi]

Nodes have been "spiked" multiple times and they never stick.

[bruizar]

Nodes is spiking because drop of honey became ridiculous

[Sigar]

I don't think Nodes will drop again, especially not the foil ones.

Btw Transmute Artifact going "bye bye".

[Madmankevinx]

Awesome. I just sold 2x NM signed Transmutes for $105 for the pair on eBay since after 7 days that's all the bidding reached.....if you guys don't hear from me ever again you now know why. Anyone seen my gun?

[apple713]

i realize that buyouts are going to happen. However, how effective are they at establishing a new price level?

Many of the buyouts are for trash cards that have no foreseeable value. For fringe use, casuals are unlikely to be able to afford them and non casuals don't want them.

So are there really enough purchases at the new price levels or are ppl just jacking up the marketplace because the MTG marketplace is easily manipulated?

[Ace/Homebrew]

Depends on the card...

For instance, MtGStocks says Lifeblood is now a $102 card (up from $4 last week).
It appears the new trend is to buy out garbage unplayable Reserved List cards to 'fear spike' the value. I assume with the hope to sell them at the newly inflated price, but I'm skeptical at how successful this strategy is...

For a card like Transmute Artifact, I'm more apt to believe a higher price will stick because only someone with serious money could attempt a buy-out (and someone with serious money is probably going to invest in stocks, not cardboard). Plus its CMC and ability are useful for stuff like EDH.
So again, I think it depends on the card.

[apple713]

Depends on the card...

For instance, MtGStocks says Lifeblood is now a $102 card (up from $4 last week).
It appears the new trend is to buy out garbage unplayable Reserved List cards to 'fear spike' the value. I assume with the hope to sell them at the newly inflated price, but I'm skeptical at how successful this strategy is...

For a card like Transmute Artifact, I'm more apt to believe a higher price will stick because only someone with serious money could attempt a buy-out (and someone with serious money is probably going to invest in stocks, not cardboard). Plus its CMC and ability are useful for stuff like EDH.
So again, I think it depends on the card.

I understand the logic / theory behind why they are doing it but I guess I'd like to know if the buyouts are successful at raising the price or if the cards generally drop back down to original price / close to it within a month / six months.

[Sigar]

I think the prices will stay pretty high, but nobody will buy the cards.

That is of course unless we are talking about actual playable cards like Transmute Artifact, which has seen Vintage, Legacy and EDH play.

[H]

Depends on the card...

For instance, MtGStocks says Lifeblood is now a $102 card (up from $4 last week).
It appears the new trend is to buy out garbage unplayable Reserved List cards to 'fear spike' the value. I assume with the hope to sell them at the newly inflated price, but I'm skeptical at how successful this strategy is...

For a card like Transmute Artifact, I'm more apt to believe a higher price will stick because only someone with serious money could attempt a buy-out (and someone with serious money is probably going to invest in stocks, not cardboard). Plus its CMC and ability are useful for stuff like EDH.
So again, I think it depends on the card.

At least Transmute Artifact is a "somewhat" unique, playable card.

Lifeblood is pretty terrible, especially since Sanctimony exists. Who would spend even $4 on that?

At least, again, Elephant Graveyard and Shahrazad (which also spiked recently) make some sense.