M2011

[Matt Blackburn]

Considering the new block is based around land, I doubt there will be any good mass land destruction. I remember way, way back in the day playing a B/G/R LD deck with Sinkhole, Ice Storm, and Stone Rain. Good times. Still have those Sinkholes and Ice Storms too. :D

thats why they should have it. as a balance. shatterstorm was reprinted in mirrodin. why cant this block have ravages of war.

[Otter]

thats why they should have it. as a balance. shatterstorm was reprinted in mirrodin. why cant this block have ravages of war.

Erm, no it wasn't. Mirrodin only had Granulate, which was so terrible that it wasn't even board-worthy against Affinity.

[Matt Blackburn]

well fuck. I guess not.

[Mark Sun]

They wouldn't reprint hate cards that strong anyways.

Artifacts (sans mana-producing) aren't considered to be a crucial, one-allowed-a-turn permanent that Lands are. If you argue that printing Armageddon/Ravages of War to fight Lands is on the same par as Shatterstorm, in that same set or not, to fight Artifacts, you're comparing apples and oranges.

[evilgorrilaz]

The whole argument for having less LD in recent sets is similar to Counterspell. No matter how powerful spells are, it sucks if you can't play those spells.

[Malchar]

I can only dream. But if Ponder is the heir of Brainstorm, we could hardly call that power creep. Maybe they could reprint Force of Will. It isn't on the reserve list. If they did, I'd love it if they kept it an UC.

I guess it's not exactly direct powercreep, but in formats like legacy and vintage, we gain access to basically 8x "Brainstorm" while standard keeps the usual 4x "Brainstorm". I think that we can assume that standard won't keep Ponder forever, and then they make a replacement for it, legacy and vintage go up to 12x, etc.

[MMogg]

I guess it's not exactly direct powercreep, but in formats like legacy and vintage, we gain access to basically 8x "Brainstorm" while standard keeps the usual 4x "Brainstorm". I think that we can assume that standard won't keep Ponder forever, and then they make a replacement for it, legacy and vintage go up to 12x, etc.

I guess so. Mind you, there have been quite a few draw spells: Opt, Sleight of Hand, Portent, Peek, Serum Visions, etc. Not much room in decks for 12 x draw spells.

I'd also like to see Lord of Atlantis come back in M11. He's the only dude in Fish who isn't in new frames.