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    Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    Hello guys,

    I am currently debating with someone that Mono-White has all possible answers with all the threats in the format. I am looking for examples and would love some help.

    Here are some of my points:

    Spot removal - Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile

    Mass removal - Wrath of God, Day of Judgement

    Other creature control - Moat, Humility

    Player protection - True Believer, Runed Halo, Solitary Confinement

    Board protection - Karmic Justice, Sacred Ground

    General removal - Oblivion Ring

    Combo breaker/protector - Orim's Chant, Abeyance

    Gravehate - Jotun Grunt (Relic of Progenitus/Tormod's Crypt)


    Are there more white cards that can be utilized out there? I was looking at Quinn builds but I noticed that Quinn build cannot run all white has to offer. Can anyone help me out?
    I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    Ähm, Disenchant is probably a quite obvious answers to many things.

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    White is definitely the color of answers. But that does not mean that it is somehow able to stand on its own better than other colors. It is a boon on defense, to be certain. But it does not have sick offense like Tarmogoyf, Tombstalker, or Wild Nacatl. Serra Avenger and Jotun Grunt are good and all, but they are not on par with those guys. White needs another color to handle its offense, which is why white/blue is really only suitable for control.

    White also is not good at preventing instants. It can't easily pull them out of your hand or counter them. And it's direct damage is poor. And it's library manipulation is bad. And it's ability to get cards into its gy is close to nonexistent. Etc.

    There is a lot more to this game than having answers.
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    Ähm, Disenchant is probably a quite obvious answers to many things.
    LOL how can I forget... damn Naturalize.

    Maybe Abolish as well?
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    Finglonger plays Spell Pierce from his hand.
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    sure
    Finglonger points from his Dack Fayden to 13NoVa's Sol Ring.
    [10:23:04]  13NoVa: lol dumb ******; nice draws with retard.dec
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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    Look for Death and Taxes lists.

    From the top of my head, I would add: Mother of the runes, Children of Korlis, Aethersworn Canonist, Samurai of the Pale Courtain, Rule of Law, Absolute Law, Honorable Passage (great against progenitus), Silence, Circles of Protection, Beckon Apparition, Mana Tithe, Tariff, Balancing Act, Suppresion Field, Pariah, Angel's Grace, Worship, Porphyry Nodes and Oblivion Ring.
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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    Quote Originally Posted by CleverPetriDish View Post
    White is definitely the color of answers. But that does not mean that it is somehow able to stand on its own better than other colors. It is a boon on defense, to be certain. But it does not have sick offense like Tarmogoyf, Tombstalker, or Wild Nacatl. Serra Avenger and Jotun Grunt are good and all, but they are not on par with those guys. White needs another color to handle its offense, which is why white/blue is really only suitable for control.

    White also is not good at preventing instants. It can't easily pull them out of your hand or counter them. And it's direct damage is poor. And it's library manipulation is bad. And it's ability to get cards into its gy is close to nonexistent. Etc.

    There is a lot more to this game than having answers.
    I am not trying to argue about offense on white. This thread is essentially about on what white has to offer for the format.
    I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
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    13NoVa plays Force of Will from his hand.
    Finglonger plays Spell Pierce from his hand.
    [10:22:43]  13NoVa: lol
    sure
    Finglonger points from his Dack Fayden to 13NoVa's Sol Ring.
    [10:23:04]  13NoVa: lol dumb ******; nice draws with retard.dec
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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    Player protection: Story Circle

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    Spiritual Asylum is quite good. Enchantress ran it when the kill was Auratog/Birds with Rancor and Ancestral Mask.
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    wheel of sun and moon, aura of silence

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    Armageddon, Ghostly Prison, Karakas (on-color land with benefits), Luminarch Ascension, Words of Worship, Pulse of the Fields.

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    Wing Shards, Condemn and Temporal Isolation/Journey to Nowhere seem like possible removal spells as well for mono white.

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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    Calciderm is a sick beater. As is Exalted Angel.

    Also Glowrider against combo. And Aven Mindcensor against shuffle effects. Stonecloaker is GY removal.

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    Morningtide, Baneslayer Angel, Stoneforge Mystic, Decree of Justice, Reveillark. Kitchen Finks?

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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    MtgSalvation's Sideboard primer has a pretty complete list of existing threats in legacy.

    Hand protection: Spiritual Focus, Library of Leng, Mangara's Blessings, Wilt-leaf liege, Pure intentions, Metrognome, Dodecapod, Sand Golem, Ivory Mask, True Believer, Imperial Mask.
    Anything: Oblation, Solitary Confinement.
    Aggro decks: Blinding Angel, Windborn muse.
    Spells: All flagbearers, dawn charm, Aegis of Honor, Iona, Shield of Emeria
    Black/Red/White/Goblins: Tivadar of Thorn, Purge, Martyr's Cry, Tivadar's Crusade.

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    Re: Premier Mono-White/Colorless answers/tools of the format

    The problem with white is that its answers aren't very versatile. Counter and discard can theoretically deal with anything. White as a color can kill anything, but white cards generally only answer a specific kind of threat.
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    With all the cool white cards that everyone has mentioned. I'm tempted to build a mono white highlander deck. 24 Snow covered Plains plus all the controllish cards that people mentioned (yes Mother of Runes counts as a controllish card since it can chump block most threats and survive) so far along with a single Enlightened Tutor as 1 ofs (Eternal Dragon and Baneslayer Angel suffice as finishers).

    Does anyone want to help me throw together a list? I think it could be a lot of fun. Versatility trumps consistency as far as I am concerned.

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    Why weren't Burrenton Forge-Tender and Cataclysm even mentioned?
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    Runed Halo
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    It does sound like you want to play Quinn/DnT or heavy white enchantress.

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