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    Mox Diamond and Land Count

    Hello guys,

    I am a noob when it comes to Mox Diamond.

    If I am planning to run a control deck that utilizes Mox Diamond, what is the ideal amount of lands that I should run (given that I am not running Crucible of Worlds)?

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    Re: Mox Diamond and Land Count

    It's hard to answer if you don't specify a bit. Generally the correct number is between 22 and 26, but depends heavily on the deck, the mana curve, the number of colors it plays, the amount of colorless mana producing lands, etc.
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    Re: Mox Diamond and Land Count

    I am currently running 18 lands (3 Horizon Canopy, 15 Plains). Its a mono-colored deck and I have ways to grab lands (Weathered Wayfarer and Tithe). The deck has a low mana curve (highest at 4CC)
    I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
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    13NoVa plays Force of Will from his hand.
    Finglonger plays Spell Pierce from his hand.
    [10:22:43]  13NoVa: lol
    sure
    Finglonger points from his Dack Fayden to 13NoVa's Sol Ring.
    [10:23:04]  13NoVa: lol dumb ******; nice draws with retard.dec
    stupid cocksucker
    You have been kicked out of the game.

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    Re: Mox Diamond and Land Count

    If you run a low mana curve and only 18 lands Chrome Mox might be a better call.
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    Re: Mox Diamond and Land Count

    Just to let y'all know, this thread has something to do with this thread:

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    I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    13NoVa plays Force of Will from his hand.
    Finglonger plays Spell Pierce from his hand.
    [10:22:43]  13NoVa: lol
    sure
    Finglonger points from his Dack Fayden to 13NoVa's Sol Ring.
    [10:23:04]  13NoVa: lol dumb ******; nice draws with retard.dec
    stupid cocksucker
    You have been kicked out of the game.

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    Re: Mox Diamond and Land Count

    There are two things you must consider:

    1) How will my deck operate without Land Tax?

    2) Even with Land Tax, how will my deck operate?

    While you can get away with an abyssmally low land count if you manage to get Land Tax on the board, you will still likely miss land drops if you're on the play and missing a land drop will always stunt your growth. Your opponent will be up cards and you will be behind in tempo. This is not a good position to be in, especially for a control deck. Then again this is a problem inherent to Land Tax so your deck will have to deal with it.

    The other thing to factor is how the deck performs without Land Tax on the board, either because it was countered, discarded, or you just didn't draw it in your opener. 18 lands is very low. 18 lands and Mox Diamond? Now you're just asking for the deck to collapse on itself over and over.

    There is no correct land count for Mox Diamond. It depends largely on how many lands you want in play in order to cast your spells, what mana count you are accelerating into, and why you need to accelerate.
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    Re: Mox Diamond and Land Count

    There is no absolute minimum for playing Mox Diamonds. I've played Mox Diamond in the following decks:

    Legacy ANT (14 lands, namesake to draw ridiculous number of cards)
    Extended GAT (18 lands, Gush)
    Classic GAT (16 land, Gush)
    Geddon Stax (26 lands, Crucible)
    BWG Pox (3 Diamonds, 23 lands, and LFTL)
    Aggro Loam (25-27 land, LFTL)
    Death n Taxes (22 lands, Tithe)

    Generally, I'd say that you want around 24+ land to take advantage of Mox Diamond unassisted. With Tithe, LFTL, Gush, or other methods of putting lands into your hand, that minimum can be brought down significantly. It still makes a horrible topdeck late game.

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