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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Quote Originally Posted by JeroenC View Post
    I've only recently been interested in Elves (well, since the GP, fairweather fan reporting in) but has anybody tested Thalia in the deck? Glimpse costing 2 is probably quite annoying but other than that, it can delay a lot of the "problem" decks long enough for you to get your own combo going- that one extra mana shouldn't be too much of a problem if you get a couple of extra turns.
    Thorn of Amethyst has been used in elves sideboard, so Thalia wouldn't be unusual if one would splash white.

    The problem with such cards isn't their hinderance to us. Paying one more for Glimpse can slow us down a turn for comboing, but that is about it. The problem with such cards are their lack of usefulness. It doesn't seem to help against storm combo enough. Comes out too late and is pretty easy to disrupt. And against control decks it doesn't feel like it does enough to slow them down.

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    Does anyone know how can we get a hold of Lukas Maurer and/or Frank Roelofs? I would like to ask them some questions. I would love to see some kind of report also. If someone around here knows them or knows how to get a hold of some of both of them, please get them to post here or give us some contact.

    Thanks
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    I can easily get a hold of Lukas. Are there any questions in particular? Thought about asking him for an interview + publishing it <somewhere>. In case you read this, Lukas, hope you don't mind I didn't ask you yet; just thought about it on my way home.

    Bonus question: am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious this guy's name is pretty much Rofellos?
    The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
    1. Discuss the unbanning of Land Tax Earthcraft.
    2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
    3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
    4. Stifle Standstill.
    5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
    6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
    7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    I have a question for Lukas.
    What was the one of Scattershot Archer for?
    It kills Narcomoebas and Signal Pests, only. I must be missing something right?


    Edit: I forgot about lingering souls. Thanks random numbers guy.

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Quote Originally Posted by joemauer View Post
    I have a question for Lukas.
    What was the one of Scattershot Archer for?
    It kills Narcomoebas and Signal Pests, only. I must be missing something right?
    Lingering Souls tokens.

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    I've contacted Frank. He said he would write a tournament report. I will post a link here as soon as its up.

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Quote Originally Posted by joemauer View Post
    I have a question for Lukas.
    What was the one of Scattershot Archer for?
    It kills Narcomoebas and Signal Pests, only. I must be missing something right?


    Edit: I forgot about lingering souls. Thanks random numbers guy.
    Add Wirewood Symbiote and/or Quirion Ranger and he kills quite a bit more :D (flipped Delver w/e)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    I can easily get a hold of Lukas. Are there any questions in particular? Thought about asking him for an interview + publishing it <somewhere>. In case you read this, Lukas, hope you don't mind I didn't ask you yet; just thought about it on my way home.

    Bonus question: am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious this guy's name is pretty much Rofellos?
    Questions:

    Why did he opt by going with 2 Ezuri, Renegade Leader instead of 2 Mirror Entity; what was the main difference in the playstyle or goal setting with that trade?

    I supose because he went mono G he traded a Birchlore Rangers for a Quirion Ranger and a Priest of Titania for the Viridian Shaman; how did that work out aswell?

    Why did he have no fetchlands? I know he went mono G with the deck, but fetchlands prevent you a little bit more of draw into another land. Was it because of Stifle? Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I would like to know for sure :p

    Overall, what's the main difference playing with his list and the Chris Andersen's (2 Mirror Entity)? Would you change anything on the Maindeck, and/or on the Sideboard?


    Thanks dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godmode View Post
    Why did he have no fetchlands? I know he went mono G with the deck, but fetchlands prevent you a little bit more of draw into another land. Was it because of Stifle? Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I would like to know for sure :p
    I think it has been pretty well established somewhere. That thinning effect of fetchlands isnt worth the lifeloss. You need SDT, brainstorm, landfall or similar to make fetchies worthwhile.

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Quote Originally Posted by jhhdk View Post
    I think it has been pretty well established somewhere. That thinning effect of fetchlands isnt worth the lifeloss. You need SDT, brainstorm, landfall or similar to make fetchies worthwhile.
    It's worthwhile if you expect to draw a lot of cards (due to Glimpse, Regal Force, or Visionary/Symbiote).

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Now that RUG Delver/Candadian Thresh is so popular and obv. DTB, it's worth it not to play fetch lands because of Stifle.

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    wouldn't 2x viridian shaman in the board be better than 1 shaman and 1 grip given shaman's interaction with symbiote and the fact that we can tutor for it? Unless enchantments are THAT important haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waikiki View Post
    I've contacted Frank. He said he would write a tournament report. I will post a link here as soon as its up.
    Any updates on the matter?

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    Seems his report is 6 pages. Currently being checked on grammar errors. I will post a link when its up

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Lukas is currently away, will start his report on Monday though.
    The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
    1. Discuss the unbanning of Land Tax Earthcraft.
    2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
    3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
    4. Stifle Standstill.
    5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
    6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
    7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).

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    Thanks!

    Looking forward to Part II.

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    I also played Elves in Ghent. This is the list I played:

    3 Birchlore Rangers
    4 Elvish Visionary
    2 Fyndhorn Elves
    4 Heritage Druid
    4 Llanowar Elves
    2 Mirror Entity
    4 Nettle Sentinel
    3 Priest of Titania
    2 Quirion Ranger
    1 Regal Force
    1 Viridian Shaman
    4 Wirewood Symbiote

    1 Crop Rotation
    4 Glimpse of Nature
    4 Green Sun's Zenith

    1 Dryad Arbor
    3 Forest
    2 Gaea's Cradle
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Pendelhaven
    2 Savannah
    4 Windswept Heath
    3 Wooded Foothills

    //Sideboard
    2 Meekstone
    1 Mortarpod
    2 Thorn of Amethyst
    4 Faerie Macabre
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Qasali Pridemage
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    2 Humility

    These were the matchups:

    Round 1: BYE
    Round 2: BYE
    Round 3: UW Miracle 0:2
    Round 4: Goblins 2:0
    Round 5: GW Maverick 2:0
    Round 6: GW Maverick 2:1
    Round 7: Dredge 2:1
    Round 8: Merfolk 2:1
    Round 9: SneakShow 1:2
    Round 10: UR Delver 2:0
    Round 11: Dredge 2:0
    Round 12: UBr ANT 0:2
    Round 13: UB Aggro Control 2:0
    Round 14: Dream Halls 2:1
    Round 15: Canadian 1:2
    Round 16: Burn 0:2

    Due to losing the last two rounds I didn't even make a money finish. Still a bit sad about it, since I was in contention for Top16 until Round 15. :\

    Here's a report in german: http://www.mtg-forum.de/blog/233/entry-1378-gent/

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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    Quote Originally Posted by Godmode View Post
    Thanks!

    Looking forward to Part II.
    [2] Looking forward to Part II !



    Quote Originally Posted by flrn View Post
    I also played Elves in Ghent. This is the list I played:

    (...)

    Here's a report in german: http://www.mtg-forum.de/blog/233/entry-1378-gent/
    Would you consider writing a report in english? :)
    Last edited by andrebonotto; 07-28-2012 at 10:25 AM. Reason: complementing

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    Quote Originally Posted by flrn View Post
    I also played Elves in Ghent.

    Round 1: BYE
    Round 2: BYE
    Round 3: UW Miracle 0:2
    Round 4: Goblins 2:0
    Round 5: GW Maverick 2:0
    Round 6: GW Maverick 2:1
    Round 7: Dredge 2:1
    Round 8: Merfolk 2:1
    Round 9: SneakShow 1:2
    Round 10: UR Delver 2:0
    Round 11: Dredge 2:0
    Round 12: UBr ANT 0:2
    Round 13: UB Aggro Control 2:0
    Round 14: Dream Halls 2:1
    Round 15: Canadian 1:2
    Round 16: Burn 0:2

    Due to losing the last two rounds I didn't even make a money finish. Still a bit sad about it, since I was in contention for Top16 until Round 15. :\
    Good job, mate. Nice results (besides Burn hehe :P).

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