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    Is this Created Card Broken 2

    Alright, its my turn again to contribute to my playgroup's cube draft.

    I've asked a card before if its broken and it was fixed to be balanced (Bloodline Cutter).

    Now, I have come again to ask for help whether this card is balanced or not and what possible fixed it could use.

    Here is the card:

    Ban

    Instant

    Exile target spell then exile ~.

    As long as ~ is exiled, all cards with the same name as cards exiled by ~ can't be cast.
    *thanks Glorfindel

    Essentially, the design is to "ban" the casted card, but in the process, it going to ban itself so you can only use it once each game, given that it resolves.

    First of all, did I word its text correctly? Second, is it balanced in terms of casting cost?

    Once again, thanks for the help!

    EDIT: If a similar card would actually see print, would it actually see play in Legacy?
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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    Well, the last ability only works when it's on the battlefield. So I would word it as:

    Ban

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    Exile target spell and ~.

    As long as ~ is exiled, all cards with the same name as cards exiled by ~ can't be cast.
    It has almost the same effect as Counterbore, which was quite underpowered at .
    Quash costs but can only target instants and sorceries.

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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    The main difference is that this card and Counterbore is that this card lets your opponent draw dead cards, which makes it better.

    But actually you should do this:

    Ban U
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    As Ban is being cast, name a card. The named card is banned until the game ends.
    Call a judge for a deckcheck. (A player with an invalid decklist gets a gameloss and a warning.)
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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeggi View Post
    The main difference is that this card and Counterbore is that this card lets your opponent draw dead cards, which makes it better.

    But actually you should do this:

    Ban U
    Instant
    As Ban is being cast, name a card. The named card is banned until the game ends.
    Call a judge for a deckcheck. (A player with an invalid decklist gets a gameloss and a warning.)
    LMAO thats just sadistic.

    But yes, it is somehow better than Counterbore. It also gets around Wishes (some people use their SB to grab necessary spells via Wishes). Of course, once used, the card itself is a dead draw on your side. Well, at least you can pitch it to FoW or Brainstorm it back to your library (if it can be played in Legacy). Also, I like the idea of "banning" a card during a game.


    I am editing the OP to correct the wording. Thanks Glorfindel
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    13NoVa plays Force of Will from his hand.
    Finglonger plays Spell Pierce from his hand.
    [10:22:43]  13NoVa: lol
    sure
    Finglonger points from his Dack Fayden to 13NoVa's Sol Ring.
    [10:23:04]  13NoVa: lol dumb ******; nice draws with retard.dec
    stupid cocksucker
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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    As far as the cards strength in constructed legacy, no where near broken. 4 mana for a counter spell just isn't good enough especially since if you run more than 1 you blank just as many of your own cards.

    In cube, everything is a one of so this seems pretty terrible.

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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    How is this any different than counter the spell and exile it?
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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    The wording of Quash is better because it prevents misplays due to memory issues (specially after a lot of matches).

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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    As long as ~ is exiled, all cards with the same name as cards exiled by ~ can't be cast.
    Technically, it should say "...with the same name as a card exiled by..." Otherwise, if two cards were somehow exiled by ~, then it would only ban cards that had the name of all the removed cards, which would be nothing. Also, the word "all" in the quoted section is not necessary. Finally, the first line can be retemplated to match the language on the wish spells that exile themselves after doing something.
    The final version could look like this:

    Exile target spell. Exile ~.
    As long as ~ is exiled, cards with the same name as a card exiled by ~ can't be cast.

    or perhaps this:

    Exile ~ and target spell.
    As long as ~ is exiled, cards with the same name as a card exiled by ~ can't be cast.

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    Re: Is this Created Card Broken 2

    Thought Suppressor (3)
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    When Thought Suppressor enters the battlefield, name a nonland card. Search target opponent's hand, library, and graveyard for all cards with that name and exile them, then that player shuffles his or her library.

    When Thought Suppressor leaves the battlefield, shuffle all cards exiled by Thought Suppressor into their owners' libraries.
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