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    Official Cockatrice thread

    More than a "new" MWS, it's intended as a successor of it since it still lacks some fundamental function and basically no one play on it. But it has a lot of nice perks:

    - works nicely on a mac, no parallels or things
    - auto-download of cards picture, no more 100000 imports
    - you can copy a deck to the deckbuilder with a simple copy-paste
    - you can test alone with two differents deck one against another
    - it's much clearer to see and don't crash as often as MWS
    - before a game you'll see your whole deck on a "virtual" table, similarly to MtGO
    - it's updated regularly on cockatrice.de

    The problems? There are no players on it and it has an awkward interface when you play, cards will get piled in strange ways and your hand it's vertical by default (but you can set it horizontal).
    I'm using it mainly because it work good on mac (lol at MWS crashes) and i can test two decks a particular matchup with no need of a mate over internet.

    Program can be found here

    Hope this get some positive reviews, i've been positively impressed by it.
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Tried it just now. Some very nice features, such as on-the-fly card picture download and (in theory) multiplayer support. But it's still nowhere near ready for regular use: for example, it crashed every time I drew an arrow and I could not manage to start an actual multiplayer game (the "ready to start" button would stop working). Once that is fixed, it'll need some more basic polish, such as dynamic card picture resizing - they're nearly unreadable on a 1920x1080 screen.

    If these issues are solved, I can see it becoming a contender. But I wouldn't go around spreading it too much until it's ready to take on the network effect of MWS, or its reputation will be perma-ruined.
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    I'm using Cockatrice since its beginning and can highly suggest it. The developers are pretty ambitious at implementing new features or fixing bugs.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Hi. I'm the primary author of the program. Thanks for your interest :)
    I apologize for the stability issues. Things were stable before the release of the latest version, I suppose the new features could've been tested more thoroughly before releasing. I'm probably going to make a fixed release this weekend or next week.
    your hand it's vertical by default (but you can set it horizontal).
    The hand is vertical by default because it's just better that way. It may take a bit of time getting used to it, but it actually saves a lot of space on the screen. The horizontal option was included for all the haters :) If all of you think it should be horizontal by default, it can be done, I don't really care.
    it has an awkward interface when you play, cards will get piled in strange ways
    Would you please elaborate on that? I don't understand what you mean :) You know, pretty much everything can be fixed.
    dynamic card picture resizing - they're nearly unreadable on a 1920x1080 screen
    Card pictures are always re-rendered when you change their size, so the quality is already the highest possible. If you're using the auto-downloaded ones, it's because of them being blurry in the first place (check Gatherer, that's where the pictures come from). A higher quality can be achieved by using MWS-like HQ scans.
    On a side note, you're not supposed to be able to read the text of the cards lying on the table. This is just not possible with current monitor resolutions. For this, you have the big picture displayed on the right (and the oracle text box below it).

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    I can't get it to work, though I am a n00b. It "Cockatrice - Disconnected" and will proceed to show me a blank page. Figured everyone here could help since they got it working, and the creator of the program himself is here.
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    I had that problem too until I tried exploring.

    Once you download it, launch "Oracle". Go to the file menu and click "download (something or another)".
    Then you can download the sets.

    After that's done, you can launch Cockatrice, and it'll ask for some file paths. You make decks go to "Decks" and pictures go to "Pics" and make card set to go "cardset.xml" or something like that, which is a newly created file after Oracle is finished.

    Then using the file menu at the "Cockatrice - Disconnected" screen, you can create new decks and start modes such as local and connected.

    I hope that helps!

    Btw, mbruker, this program is fantastic. I'm on a Mac and to me this runs just like MWS. (I'll be joining your forums to let you know of bugs on the Mac version as I come across them). It's just so great that I don't have to sleeve up proxies of decks anymore and play against other proxied decks.

    I haven't tried this yet, but is it possible for someone on the Mac version to connect to someone on the Windows version?

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    I haven't tried this yet, but is it possible for someone on the Mac version to connect to someone on the Windows version?
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Played a couple games tonight was fun, couldn't find a way to discard randomly :( but I like it better than mws already
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Implemented chat channels? Spectators? That puts this head and shoulder above MWS already. Haven't managed to secure a game yet, but I like the functionality of it.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Does it handle priority, responses, and phases like MWS where its jsut kind of random and up to the players?

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    good start so far, but it needs all the functionality that mws has to become the new standard. for example interface look, card name in readable letters etc
    and it needs a shuffle engine that is better than the broken shit on mws.
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    So I tried to register for the cockatrice forums but apparently registration is closed temporarily. I will therefore post my bug here:

    I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with qt 4.5.2 (devtools included).

    I downloaded the source from the git, then ran this in the shell:

    (from ~/cockatrice/cockatrice$)

    lrelease cockatrice.pro
    qmake
    make

    And make failed at build/handcounter.o on a QPixmap call...
    Any advice? I'll try this on another linux box I have sitting around.
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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    It's a good program but I found some things missing (or perhaps I just didn't find them) like for instance letting a player discard a random card from its hand or the hotkey for giving a creature +1+1; +0/+1 ; +1/+0.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Played around on the solo mode and it was pretty cool. Def better than MWS. Like others said, it needs a discard at random btn. Seems great though if everything gets functional with playing other players online I would def play on it alot.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Quote Originally Posted by Shimster View Post

    @ network effect: Just perma ban Spanish and Italian IPs. Simple but effective. :)


    Poor Spanish and Italians, they get shafted by ebay and now this.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Quote Originally Posted by Zork View Post
    So I tried to register for the cockatrice forums but apparently registration is closed temporarily. I will therefore post my bug here:

    I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with qt 4.5.2 (devtools included).

    I downloaded the source from the git, then ran this in the shell:

    (from ~/cockatrice/cockatrice$)

    lrelease cockatrice.pro
    qmake
    make

    And make failed at build/handcounter.o on a QPixmap call...
    Any advice? I'll try this on another linux box I have sitting around.
    Seems that you miss some QT dev libraries. Is working for me in Debian.
    It's great how the program autodownload the pics :)

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Why does this board invalidate one's session so fast? I had typed up a response, and now I have to rewrite everything.
    Anyway, thanks for the input.

    the "ready to start" button would stop working
    The button only works when you have a deck loaded. Other than that, I can't think of any reason for it to not work.

    Does it handle priority, responses, and phases like MWS where its jsut kind of random and up to the players?
    Yes. I have some ideas on how to deal with jerks though. For example, one could open a game than could only be joined by registered players, so any infractions could be saved in people's profiles, or something like that. We need to find a solution that will not be considered annoying/intrusive while avoiding the "n00b -- system: player lost" problem known from MWS.

    registration is closed temporarily.
    It's not actually closed, it just has to be done on the main website. Accounts registered there are automatically synchronized with the message board. Registering gives you the advantage that your user name can't be used by other people since it's password protected. You can also save your decks on the server and do other things that wouldn't be possible otherwise.

    make failed at build/handcounter.o on a QPixmap call...
    Seems that you miss some QT dev libraries.
    The actual reason is that I haven't been testing with Qt 4.5 lately, and they apparently have changed a function call between 4.5 and 4.6. I've made a Qt version check there, so please test the latest git version.

    it needs a discard at random btn
    I wasn't aware that this is such an important thing to have. No problem implementing it though. Maybe this evening... :)

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Whether I try to cease watching a game the program ctd's. I run Window's Vista and have no issues otherwise. Excellent program, albeit the interface is plenty unpolished still.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Whether I try to cease watching a game the program ctd's.
    Thanks. Fixed.

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    Re: Gentlemen, take a look at Cockatrice, the new MWS

    Quote Originally Posted by mbruker View Post
    Thanks. Fixed.
    As far as the shuffler is concerned, does it work better then MWS's?
    Also I need a link for this program etc.

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