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    How about this as a potential goblin to complete the enemy-hate cycle in M14?

    Goblin Stud
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    Haste, Battlecry
    Goblins Stud cannot be blocked by U or W creatures.
    2/2

    It's a pipe dream, but haste and Battlecry are both Red abilities. It's not too crazy to wish for something along those lines. That card would actually be super playable, and it would allow a T1 Lackey to attack into DRS or SFM.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by jrw1985 View Post
    How about this as a potential goblin to complete the enemy-hate cycle in M14?

    Goblin Stud
    RR
    Haste, Battlecry
    Goblins Stud cannot be blocked by U or W creatures.
    2/2

    It's a pipe dream, but haste and Battlecry are both Red abilities. It's not too crazy to wish for something along those lines. That card would actually be super playable, and it would allow a T1 Lackey to attack into DRS or SFM.
    I really doubt they'd print us another Piledriver (+1 for each other creature instead of +2, can't be block by Merfolks) that had an extra power AND haste AND couldn't be blocked by Thalia/Mom/SFM/etc.

    Goblin Thug
    1RR
    Haste
    Whenever a blue or white creature blocks ~, ~ gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
    2/2

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Goblin stud sounds like an Unhinged card. Also think this is the core set. Your not going to have completed abilities or keywords not on other cards.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    I want to know what people have to say about THIS one


    Playable or too cute?

    A list of cards with triggered abilities in Vial Goblins:

    AEther Vial
    Goblin Lackey
    Warren Instigator
    Goblin Piledriver
    Mogg War Marshal
    Goblin Matron
    Goblin Ringleader
    Siege-Gang Commander
    Gempalm Incinerator
    Stingscourger


    This card has more synergies with the deck than any other Goblin I know. It's a shame that activating the ability costs 2 and not 1 colorless mana.
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    Mountain Caverns, Lackey, Go.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by GoboLord View Post
    Playable or too cute?
    Without having done any testing, it looks too cute. It appears bad in Goblins for the exact same reason Umezawa's Jitte is bad in Goblins. It is a 2 mana non-goblin that requires to use and is reliant on having another body (specifically one on the list you provided) on the field.

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    Looks like an EDH/commander card. 2 to activate is too much, but if you vial in ringleader/matron and have two up, that'd be nutty. On that note, has anyone tried the restoration angel build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by from Cairo View Post
    Any thoughts on what element of flavor the Red one might get? I was thinking of what would be on the wishlist as far as comes into play abilities.

    I think I would like to see a 2/1 or 2/2 with "When ~ enters the battlefield deal damage equal to it's power to each Blue and White creature." Blast SFM, SCM, Geist, and White Weenie stuff.
    I think that's way OP. It might be TARGET U/W creature, but not EACH one.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    About Strionic Resonator: when i saw it on the spoilers i immediately thought about all the ETB triggers of our beloved goblins... it may do crazy things in our deck, but overall it costs too much mana and is another card that does nothing (we already play aether vial,can we afford to go turn 1 vial turn 2 strionic resonator? the answer is no).

    So in my opinion it's just a too cute card, for goblins but also for legacy in general. Despite this i'm sure someone will try to build decks around it.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    I hear there's a Goblins deck in the Top 8 at SCG Worcester. Best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Without having done any testing, it looks too cute. It appears bad in Goblins for the exact same reason Umezawa's Jitte is bad in Goblins. It is a 2 mana non-goblin that requires to use and is reliant on having another body (specifically one on the list you provided) on the field.
    I think that's a good analogy, and I agree. It just seems worse than jitte for us.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Mogg War Marshal
    Goblin Matron
    Goblin Ringleader
    Siege-Gang Commander
    Gempalm Incinerator
    Stingscourger

    all rely on the card just being played, no if you are playing them via Aether Vial, or Lackey/Instigator then the two mana to activate Resonator would be there, but I feel its just too cute, and slows down a deck that really doesn't need to be sped up.

    is worth testing though.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Strionic Resonator: A Kiki Jiki without legs.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Goblins just lost in the first game of top8 against canadian (2-0). He played a pretty standard list with 1 taiga and 1 plateau for tin street hooligan (1 main 1 side) , 2 krosan grip in side and 4 thalias in side.

    The only curios card is a Iona,Shield of Emeria in sideboard alongside an angel of despair. I guess they both are for the show and tell matchup.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Iona I think is a great SnT card. I might give it a go.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Iona I think is a great SnT card. I might give it a go.
    Yeah, I can't condone running 2 SB cards (Iona and Angel) that literally only answer 1 card (SnT). Not one deck, or one archetype, but 1 card. That's a waste of SB slots, especially when you've already got access to Stingscourger for creatures and KGrip for Omniscience. I'd suggest running Blood Moon or more GY hate.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Oh shit, I was thinking about crossing decks and had elves in mind too. As I do not have Angel, I was thinking Iona alone in the sideboard.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by GoboLord View Post
    Playable or too cute?
    Thoughts?
    Too cute. Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is a card....

    It lets you get any ETB trigger at instant speed instead of just when the creature itself enters. Sure, copying Piledriver or Lackey/WInstigator is slightly different than copying the trigger on one of them but the net effect is still 2 triggers, very similar outcome, and having 2 copies attacking is usually much better than having one attacking that triggers twice. I would much rather attack with double Piledriver or double WInstigator than a single one on 'roids.

    I suppose Kiki can't speed up Vial counters or double Gempalm damage, but that's kind of splitting hairs. If you're paying 3R to kill a creature with this deck, you're doing it wrong.

    EDIT: Ninja's by Dicebox. Whoops.

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    Sadness. The 'hoser' is an Elemental:

    Mindsparker
    Cost - 1RR
    Creature - Elemental
    First strike
    Whenever an opponent casts a white or blue instant or sorcery spell, Mindsparker deals 2 damage to that player.
    3/2

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    Sadness. The 'hoser' is an Elemental:

    Mindsparker
    Cost - 1RR
    Creature - Elemental
    First strike
    Whenever an opponent casts a white or blue instant or sorcery spell, Mindsparker deals 2 damage to that player.
    3/2
    Fuck this shit.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by jrw1985 View Post
    Fuck this shit.
    You expected a Legacy playable in a core set after they gave us a 3cc Nimble Mongoose+Mold Adder chaff?

    Right after a set where 35% of each booster were Cluestones??

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