Look at cards like Peacekeeper and Llawan. For many years these cards languished in dollar bins, and then suddenly once attention was focused on them, they skyrocketed to $10/apiece -- and they probably have more room for growth. I think that's a bit ridiculous for corner-case sideboard cards, but such is eternal Magic these days. Some cards were impossible to know that they were good until a future printing (e.g. Dark Depths before Vampire Hexmage). Even cards that were known to be good, but stayed at a relatively low price, end up jumping leaps and bounds in value (e.g. Maze of Ith).
What I'd like this thread to do is have a list of cards with -potential- use. Maybe they are very corner-case specific/narrow, maybe they seem 'impossible' to break, but the idea is for people to be aware of them and possibly get a playset while they are dirt cheap. I'd personally rather be out a couple bucks than miss the boat on some card getting broken down the line.
Some I've thought of:
Earthcraft -- when a banned card comes off the list, they tend to jump in value, even if it doesn't end up being spectacular (Grim Monolith for example)
Hermit Druid -- see above
Gustha's Scepter -- has an unusual effect, costs 0, and was once part of a combo deck.
Windfall
Tsabo's Web
Spinal Villain
Aboria
Damnation -- we see Wrath of God making its way into sideboards and maindecks, since Legiacy has slowed down a bit. It is not out of the question to see a black-based control deck make use of this sweeper
Any others people can think of? I'm sure there are plenty with undiscovered interactions waiting to be exploited.. I would have never guessed that Phyrexian Devourer would find use!
I have a feeling that Earthcraft is next to be unbanned. I think I will stock up on it (I totally missed out on Time Spiral when the local store had a playset for $5 each). I can see Earthcraft do really well in Elves Combo (if it ever gets unban).
Enchantress would use it to as an alternate win con or turning Argothian Enchantress into a mana-creature.
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forumsOriginally Posted by Kyle
Also, buy your playset of Enlightened Tutors if you haven't yet! This card is just waiting to be exploited by a tier 1 strategy.
Re: Earthcraft, the card is very likely to come off the banned list in my opinion. While it can do broken things, it doesn't do anything worse or faster than a lot of other two card combos in legacy. Giving enchantress a boost is cool in my book too, I love to see niche strategies dominate more typical ones!
Garza's Assasin is a pretty neat alternative to Gatekeeper of Malakir. I built a deck around creatures that kill other creatures (Shriekmaw, Gatekeeper, Garza's Assasin, Vampire Nighthawk) plus Bob, Ritual and disruption with equipment (Jitte, SoFI) to buff them into win-cons. It worked well against anything that relied on creatures (including Emrakul and Progenitus), but I gave up on it because it had a number of horrific matchups (burn, control, enchantress). I also think Slaughter Pact is an overlooked alternative to Smother/Go For the Throat. When I've tested in as a 2-of in Eva Green, it's been much better than the ones where you have to pay mana immediately, just because there were so many times where my opponent would have two creatures out and I had removal in hand and creatures with only 3 lands. Then, you'd have to choose between either dropping a Goyf to block one and get hit by the other with a typical removal spell. With Slaughter Pact, it was always nice to drop a Goyf, then be able to block one and kill the other. Plus, if they decide not to attack because they're staring down a Goyf, you can save the removal for later.
I think a card that is really flying under the radar ATM is Stillmoon Cavalier. It essentially has pro: all but red removal and has a couple of relavent abilities (pump and evasion) With Stoneforge Mystic getting so much attention recently (Deadguy Ale, Excalibur) Stillmoon seems like a great card.
Thoughts?
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Seems really good, things with Pro-Swords generally do well when there is a lack of true board sweepers in the format. It can conditionally get around Firespout. About the Wrath of God/Damnation comment in the OP, I honestly haven't seen these in a competitive setting in so long that dedicated control is no longer a factor when I prepare for a tournament. Headed on a flight, I guess I'll troll the MWS database while I'm twiddling my thumbs.
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am I right that the text of Gustha's Scepter changed? On magiccards.info it says: When you lose control of Gustha's Scepter, put all cards exiled with Gustha's Scepter into their owner's graveyard.
Before it said: When it leaves play or you lose control of...
If Windfall weren't banned, it'd see a ton of play.
Gustha's Scepter does seem to be really interesting with Lion's Eye Diamond.
I'm surprised Gifts Ungiven hasn't been more abused, to be quite honest. Sure Intuition seems to be the blue tutor of choice, but Gifts can be pretty easily abused. Maybe it's simply the difference between 3 and 4 mana costs.
A few cards I've had my eye on for a while:
Arboria - Seems a lot like a Moat but for green. Plus since it says nontoken permanent, you could easily abuse this with something like Luminarch Ascension. :)
Land Equilibrium - Seems so abusable with things like Parallax Tide, City of Traitors and Crystal Vein. However, maybe it falls to the same plight as Stax, too little too late.
Goblin Wizard - A bit more controllish version of Goblins could heavily abuse this guy, especially when he could come down with Lackey on turn 2. Plus he has a relevant protection, pro-StP.
Suppression Field - I know there's a deck list floating around that uses this, but I'm just surprised it hasn't been explored further by deck builders. I mean from Top to Vial, fetches to equipment, this thing HOSES key spells in a bunch of decks.
Winds of Change is another card with a huge effect and low cc. I have it in a crazy Psychic Possession deck with Consecrated Sphinx. Lots of bounce and counter (Arcane Denial is killer here). Then it wins with Niv-Mizzet or Spiraling Embers or Words of War or Conflagrate. I never have a problem with the card draw but it seems to be difficult to win sometimes. I need a better surefire way to end the game.
I always thought Damping Matrix would be a good card.
Thousand-Year Elixir seemed always interesting in a Goblin Welder deck.
Artificer's Intuition only waits for an Artifact Squee.
And what about old Standard staples like Heartbeat of Spring?
Oh, and what about Leonin Arbiter? When this card was spoiled, people were super excited, "it hoses the entire format", they said... but I didn't really see it.
If only this only affected opponents. My pet deck, Quinn, could use something like this against Counterbalance and Top decks.
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
I guess someone should tell all those UR Delver players they don't want their Forces anymore.
Anyway, another card I wish were a card and would be great in imaginary Sligh : Reckless Abandon
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Should they also tell the Shardless BUG players not to run Forces? I don't see the connection.
UR Delver is like a more aggressive cousin of RUG with fewer Tarmogoyfs and mana denial and more reach. Its strategy is to play a T1 threat, protect with countermagic and then finish off with burn. Clearly countermagic fits that plan.
Burn's plan is to burn. I don't even...
On the original topic, I'm a little surprised that Rune-Scarred Demon hasn't found a home in some kind of food chain deck.
Greater Good/Momentous Fall have combo potential, but they don't see much in the way of play.
I'm tempted to build a rogue deck called "Greater Goyf". Probably with Varolz and Phyrexian Dreadnought
Yeah, I'd thought Death's Shadow and Call to the Netherworld, but Varolz is better...
There's no reason to run RSD. Fierce Empath is superior in every way.
Maybe he means something to Fierce Empath into if you don't have the Griffin combo to generate enough mana to cast Emrakul. Then you could Empath for and cast Rune-Scarred into infiniGriffin.
RSD might have seen play as a plan B if there wasn't a bigger, fatter, lifelinking guy that puts 7-14 cards in your hand instead of just one for pretty much the same cost.
I've honestly always wondered if there's a really good food chain deck we are all missing.
Playing some variety of delver.
There is goblins , if goblin recruiter will ever come back in legacy :)
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