[SPOILERS] New Phyrexia

[Rune]

I don't pay much attention to these spoilers/speculation but I know for sure one way for wizards to get me to buy packs would be to put cards in there I actually want. Force being one of them (Haven't bought packs since zen fetches)

I'll take your guys word for it. I don't play standard, but would force really be that powerful?

Jace, Spell Pierce, Mana Leak and FoW in the same T2 format. Well, I think I would enjoy that, but the kids with the bad non-blue decks probably wouldn't.

[Nidd]

I don't pay much attention to these spoilers/speculation but I know for sure one way for wizards to get me to buy packs would be to put cards in there I actually want. Force being one of them (Haven't bought packs since zen fetches)

I'll take your guys word for it. I don't play standard, but would force really be that powerful?

Bleh... Giving up 1 card extra to counter a spell is very relevant in standard right now. It would, however, turn on all the dead Spell Pierces in the Caw Blade decks during lategame.

I honestly don't think Force would downright ruin Standard if it would be reprinted, but it probably won't be.

[Pinder]

IF this cycle is reprinted, red obviously gets a free burn spell. White gets free lifegain? Green gets free pump spell?

It already was a cycle:


Force of Will
Bounty of the Hunt
Pyrokinesis
Contagion


...come to think of it, I'm not sure there was a white one. I can't think of one, anyway.

[Koby]

Scars of the Veteran. Terrible, to be sure.

[menace13]

I am pretty sure FoW would be nuts in T2, Tap out to play Jace and still have counter up, Equip the Caws with no fear of removal jacking that tempo.

[Pinder]

Scars of the Veteran. Terrible, to be sure.

Indeed. But a lot of cycles back then were awfully imbalanced. Compare Healing Salve to Ancestral Recall, for example. White always seems to get the worst ones.

edit - More on topic, do people think that Sword of War and Peace will still show up? Are all of the cards whose art have been shown showing up regardless of which set it ended up being?

[Nidd]

Indeed. But a lot of cycles back then were awfully imbalanced. Compare Healing Salve to Ancestral Recall, for example. White always seems to get the worst ones.

edit - More on topic, do people think that Sword of War and Peace will still show up? Are all of the cards whose art have been shown showing up regardless of which set it ended up being?

All cards that have been seen which were conceived as Mirrodin Pure cards will be printed with the New Pyhrexia expansion symbol. Mirrodin Pure never existed, Action was planned as new Phyrexia from the very beginning.

[dahcmai]

Scars of the Veteran is pretty awesome if Doran made a comeback also. Don bash the Scars. : )

[lordofthepit]

Probably the worst fake spoiler ever. That Fow screams I'm fake with all its ugliness. And Uncommon? If it would ever be reprinted,I bet it would be a Mythic...

If it were reprinted with that type of ugly art, I hope it's Mythic so I don't have to see it too often. And it would alleviate any concerns some people might have about their Alliances Force of Wills dropping in price because the ugliness of that reprint would make that card wholly undesirable.

[kiblast]

If it were reprinted with that type of ugly art, I hope it's Mythic so I don't have to see it too often. And it would alleviate any concerns some people might have about their Alliances Force of Wills dropping in price because the ugliness of that reprint would make that card wholly undesirable.

Yeah I agree,but on the other way I was thinking that, you know, foil is foil. If they come up with a very nice artwork, I might accept a reprint, but only as a mythic. But I see myself in 99,99% of the case loving Terese's artwork more than everything else they could come up. I'ts so iconic and strong that it can be outclassed only by a very talented artist ( I'd love to see some Rebecca Guay take on a Fow...^^) ; oh, let's be honest, old one would win anyway for the old frame...

MaRo said Innistrad is NOT homelands2. Id like to return too. As for kiblast posting Chatterer 2...c'mon...Pinhead looks the coolest imo

Yeah Pinhead is the coolest for sure, I was giving some reference for Phyrexian art as I'd love it to be :)

[Dragon_Whelp]

If it were reprinted with that type of ugly art, I hope it's Mythic so I don't have to see it too often. And it would alleviate any concerns some people might have about their Alliances Force of Wills dropping in price because the ugliness of that reprint would make that card wholly undesirable.

I am sure that the demographic for almost-naked muscular men flexing their muscles would prefer the old one, but other than that...

[menace13]

I am sure that the demographic for almost-naked muscular men flexing their muscles would prefer the old one, but other than that...

What would you prefer?
The old art is iconic and not gay male porn. Reprinting FoW with art that is not up to par with Terese would be a shame.

[DownSyndromeKarl]

Terese's art is 'nice', but not amazing. New FoW art could be better than the original, but it would have to be freaking amazing to undermine the iconic art on the original.

[Barook]

All cards that have been seen which were conceived as Mirrodin Pure cards will be printed with the New Pyhrexia expansion symbol. Mirrodin Pure never existed, Action was planned as new Phyrexia from the very beginning.

I don't get why anybody thought it could be anything else but New Phyrexia. Its name has been a trademark since ages, way before even Scars of Mirrodin was released.

It was nothing more than a shitty attempt at a marketing gag. And we all know fully well how much Wizards fails in terms of marketing campaigns.

[Admiral_Arzar]

LOL @ the obvious April Fool's joke.

[Koby]

Terese's art is 'nice', but not amazing. New FoW art could be better than the original, but it would have to be freaking amazing to undermine the iconic art on the original.

I do miss the old days that blue cards got red-themes art that made it really pop out.

Counterbalance
Force of Will
http://magiccards.info/sh/en/36.html
http://magiccards.info/tp/en/57.html

[Jeff Kruchkow]

LOL @ the obvious April Fool's joke.

The joke would be far better if it wasn't a joke. That way wizards could laugh it up when the collective legacy community shits its pants at the prerelease.

[Clark Kant]

I'm really pumped for the upcoming Neil Patrick Harris themed set!

[plus_ten]

23 cards have been spoilt on the other major mtg forum. All scanned in Japanese (they don't seem to look faked). Just putting the news here in the hope that we can get them translated sooner.

[Mark Sun]

They're doing a pretty good job on MTGS translating so far. Notably,

Karn, the Savior - 7
Planeswalker - Karn (M)

+4: Target player exiles a card from his or her hand.
-3: Exile target permanent.
-14: Return all exiled non-Aura permanents to the battlefield under your control.

6 Loyalty



I didn't think they'd print a Colorless Planeswalker, but sure. There's a new type of mana symbol, Phyrexian, which can be paid with the color of mana tied to the symbol or 2 life. Also, there's a throwback Phyrexian Negator with Infect for BBBB. Fun times.