[Deck] GW/x Maverick

[Dzra]

Ethersworn Canonist, Batterskull, Jitte, and Linvala are all good for Elves.

[Fatal]

I added some Chapters in Primer and update some builds and strategies.

In not so long future I'm planing to clean the Primer to little shorter and more compact since its 20 pages long - little book ;)

[Artlee]

Ethersworn Canonist, Batterskull, Jitte, and Linvala are all good for Elves.

Isn't Linvala too slow?

[Koopa]

Isn't Linvala too slow?

Yes and No. By itself it is too slow, but with acceleration or some minor disruption she locks out the Elf deck.

[mordraid]

Isn't Linvala too slow?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[majikal]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I think the idea is to land a Canonist and swords their guys until you can get Linvala in play.

[KobeBryan]

Wouldnt livala be too slow against combo elves? They go off on turn 3 most of time

[Fade]

Played in a small tournament today and went 3-0-1 with my matches being Mono Blue Dreadnaught (2-0), High Tide (2-0), and Rg Goblins (2-1). The last round my opponent (UW Sword Fish) and I ID'd and split the prize as it was getting pretty late. I never really got to test the Loyal Retainers out, but essentially it could have been really good against High Tide and Goblins. I'm going to test it out more before I come to a conclusion on whether it belongs in the deck or not.

[ryn ball_2]

played in a >10 participants in our local shop and went 3-2 first time playing this deck with the inclusion of thalia along side sfm package

R1 vs MBC: win 2-0
R2 vs white stax: thalia ftw 2-0
R3 vs rug: 1-2 mana screw at game 3
R4 vs gobs: 1-2 seems the deck goes slow this time and i dont know why
R5 vs dredge: 2-1

still i need to play more

[Mark Sun]

Ethersworn Canonist, Batterskull, Jitte, and Linvala are all good for Elves.

I would agree with all of these except Batterskull. They don't really care about that card, in my opinion.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

I am assuming it was a mistype. Batterskull's probably the first card that should come out against Elves.

[Arcadia]

I played yesterday on legacy catalan league (130 players). Played against 3 gw, 4 stoneblade, 1 threshhold.

Things to mention... 4 qasali and 2 stoneforge was great. Before I run 3-3. Sometimes stoneforge is awesome, but some others it is too slow.

I won the three mirrors. About sbding I did +2 gut shot +2 path +1 gideon +1 wave -1 stoneforge -1 sword body and mind, -3 thalia -1 gaddock.

Never drawn gideon, draw once wave (I didn't need it). But mana is even tighter than I imagined, so I don't think I try again gideon. Wave maybe. BUT the best card was gut shot. It won a lot of games.

In general I missed a second jitte, and probably a second planeswalker after sb.

[maktus]

I think that Mirran Crusader prefers plowing fields than slashing baddies. His vulnerability to both Bolt and StP is a big drawback.

I was seeing your decklist and I was curious to know what you side in and out against mirror. Do you use the e-tutor kit?

[Koby]

I was seeing your decklist and I was curious to know what you side in and out against mirror. Do you use the e-tutor kit?

In my old list (which is now outdated - I've switched over to +Thalia -SFM), I would cut SoFI, 3 SFM, Thrun, and Teeg to bring in Maze, Bog, 2 PtE, Jitte, and O-ring/Metamorph

[Avatar of Light]

In my old list (which is now outdated - I've switched over to +Thalia -SFM), I would cut SoFI, 3 SFM, Thrun, and Teeg to bring in Maze, Bog, 2 PtE, Jitte, and O-ring/Metamorph

With SFM gone, is the equipment package (SoFI, SoLS, Jitte) still the same? Or have you moved to 2 Jitte MD?

[Fatal]

I'm almost sure you should switch to 2 x Jitte, since straight GW lists doesn't run too many removal (4 stp aren't sometimes enough), its a good direction.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

I know that people in this thread are unreasonably afraid of drawing and resolving amazingly powerful permanents and having a backup copy in hand, but are these lists really so tight that people can't fit in 3x Jitte?

[majikal]

I know that people in this thread are unreasonably afraid of drawing and resolving amazingly powerful permanents and having a backup copy in hand, but are these lists really so tight that people can't fit in 3x Jitte?

I could see a third Jitte being good, but there are honestly only a couple of flex slots in the maindeck. With many decks moving away from Stoneforge, just how necessary is Aven Mindcensor? It always feels underwhelming when I play it, and it surely would be the first thing I cut from a modern Maverick list (-SFM +Thalia, etc).

I'm also tempted to play a full four Scavenging Ooze just to overload my opponents' removal.

So maybe something like:

1x Dryad Arbor
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Mother of Runes
3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3x Qasali Pridemage
4x Scavenging Ooze
1x Scryb Ranger
1x Gaddock Teeg
4x Knight of the Reliquary

4x Swords to Plowshares
4x Green Sun's Zenith
3x Umezawa's Jitte
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1x Sylvan Library (or honestly, probably the second Elspeth. Lots of Artifact/Enchantment hate running around at the moment)

4x Wasteland
4x Savannah
4x Windswept Heath
2x Misty Rainforest
3x Forest
1x Plains
2x Horizon Canopy
1x Gaea's Cradle
1x Karakas

[JUNI0R]

I know that people in this thread are unreasonably afraid of drawing and resolving amazingly powerful permanents and having a backup copy in hand, but are these lists really so tight that people can't fit in 3x Jitte?

Going to 3 Jitte it not unreasonable. In stalemate situations the first one is going to get blown up or countered anyways and it's nice to draw a second one. If the first Jitte does stay on the board you are likely ahead. We were running 3 equipment before, so when i took out the stoneforge package I just changed the equipment to 3 Jitte. You lose some flexibility of choosing your equipment with stoenforge but I found myself usually wanting Jitte anyways so it really hasn't bothered me.

[maktus]

Going to 3 Jitte it not unreasonable. In stalemate situations the first one is going to get blown up or countered anyways and it's nice to draw a second one. If the first Jitte does stay on the board you are likely ahead. We were running 3 equipment before, so when i took out the stoneforge package I just changed the equipment to 3 Jitte. You lose some flexibility of choosing your equipment with stoenforge but I found myself usually wanting Jitte anyways so it really hasn't bothered me.

Two weeks ago I played a small tournament (10 people) with 3x thalia and 3x Jitte and was not impressed. Thalia stopped me from using Elspeth in the first game, and I missed sword of light and shadow against junk e StP.