Not gonna lie, I haven't dropped a match against Dredge with Maverick since I went to 2x scavenging ooze.Originally Posted by heallan
That and don't these decks run abrupt decay.
I agree but Ooze isnt enough against a good dredge player, he can win game against a medium hand but as soon as they have a very fast one, the anti graveyard is needed. In this particular MU, Rest in peace or and other one is quite the same.
It is sure Deathrite deck plays abrupt decay but if they abrupt decay on RIP, it is totally fine. RIP would have emptied both cemetaries and took the abrupt: It is just good, one less on my threat.
In my last tournament, RIP helps me to beat BUG, Dredge and RUG without any difficulty.
In the dredge matchup, any exile the graveyard effect is good so long as you time it right, whether it be RiP or Tormod's crypt
BUG, rug and dredge where already decks maverick could beat fine without RiP, unless I'm missing something, (course Bug refers to at least 5 decks at this point so which variant in particular?)
Crop Rotation into Bajuka Bog. Also there's Faerie Macabre, or even Ravenous Trap. At any rate, nerfing your own fleet seems suboptimal, especially when those cards are useful against other decks than dredge in which nerfing your own fleet is quite bad.
Against Dredge, RIP is great if you're playing the tutor-board. Yeah, it shuts down your Knights and Oozes but so what, you shut down his entire deck and everything he has done so far in the game. Killing him with 2/2:s is fairly easy since his plan B is to hardcast Golgari Thugs and Narcomoebas of City of Brass.
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Sounds fine if all you're playing against is dredge.
Is that what you want against RUG, Reanimator, Past in Flames, and other decks that utilize the graveyard? Probably not.
Why include a bullet for one particular deck that you're not likely to see a lot of, when you have other options? Tormod's Crypt is just as tutorable, as is Bajuka Bog.
RE Tormod's Crypt - it also doesn't choke you out on mana. The primary plan against Dredge is Scavenging Ooze. That's a turn 2 play at best. The whole reason to run Crop Rotation + Bojuka Bog, Faerie Macabre, Surgical Extraction, or Tormod's Crypt is to buy time to be able to setup an Ooze + mana. The only targets we need to worry about are Bridge from Below, Ichorid, and Narcomoeba. StP handles the latter two, and Ooze can systematically remove Ichorids and Narco's as they appear until you have enough mana to start eating dredgers.
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+1 for the crop rotation. It pulls double duty at getting that karakas when needed as well. Mavericks slots are so tight you cant just add cards that work on 1 deck, you gotta play cards that hinge across the board...
No more DTB =(... How long was it up there?
Maverick emerged as a tier-one deck sometime in early 2011, so it had a good two-year run. The printing of Deathrite Shaman has really knocked it down a peg. If you like to play non-blue midrange, Jund looks much better right now than Maverick.
I see more than others do because I know where to look.
Sadly, now is a horrible time to buy into Jund. The prices are too damn high.
Yes! SCG top 8 http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=53143 nice job Evan
Win a tournament this weekend playing Mav i donīt know the exactly number of players (6 rounds), not losing a single match:
RUG 2-0
SaT 2-1
BUG 2-1
Goblins 2-1
Reanimator 2-0
Jund 2-0
Top 8
Uw Miracles 2-1
SaT 2-1
BUG 2-0
In my opinion the deck needs of better players, i've seeing some games (online, IRL) that i donīt understand what the players was thinking. Looks like the good players prefer to play brainstorm...
When i get more time i post the list and details the matchs.
Care to post your decklist? Thanks!
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3x Mother of Runes
1x Sylvan Safekeeper
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Knight of the Reliquary
2x Qasali Pridemage
2x Scavenging Ooze
2x Stoneforge Mystic
1x Scryb Ranger
1x Gadock Teeg
1x Terravore
1x Sigarda, Host of Herons
1x Dryad Arbor
Enchantment x2
2x Sylvan Library
Sorcery x5
4x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Life from the Loam
Instants x4
4x Swords to Plowsahres
Artifact x3
1x Sword of Light and Shadow
2x Umezawa's Jitte
Lands x23
4x Windswept Heath
4x Wasteland
4x Savannah
3x Misty Rainforest
3x Forest
1x Plains
1x Gaea's Cradle
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Karakas
1x Maze of Ith
Sideboard x15
3x Oblivion Ring
3x Surgical Extraction
1x Crop Rotation
1x Bojuka Bog
3x Ethersworn Canonist
2x Gaddock Teeg
1x Ulvenwald Tracker
1x Eternal Witness
After so many tests (i mean really a lot), i decide to cut Thalia, because most of the time she's doing nothing and slows down me.
I have used a version with Garruk and Elspeth, but the Sigarda and Terravore are most effective kill conditions (hey lets put some use for that zeniths on midlle and late games).
Play Loam, Safekeeper and Terravore this guys got balls.
Sword of Light and Shadow(especially with loam) and Jitte are the bests equips for this deck, so use them.
Eternal Witness and Tracker show they valor on champ i dont have any regrets of use them.
I think the rest of the deck don't need more explanation, when i got more time (work and college) i explain the matches.
Interesting, I've seen a lot of people advocating Sigarda these days.
How do you beat Miracles? Does the SFM+equipment package help?
Did the tournament just not have any fast kill combo decks (Belcher, ANT) or were those players all in the lower brackets?
Getting ready for SCG Indy in just over a week, here is the list I've been testing with decent success...
2 Aven Mindcensor
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Mother of Runes
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Scryb Ranger
3 Stoneforge Mytic
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sylvan Library
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Forest
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Karakas
1 Maze of Ith
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Plains
4 Savannah
4 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
61
SB:
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Crop Rotation
3 Oblivion Ring
1 Ulvenwald Tracker
1 Path to Exile
2 Pithing Needle
1 Gaddock Teeg
3 Mindbreak Trap
1 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
Thoughts?
Last edited by conley1000000; 02-26-2013 at 11:30 AM.
I like that list. Few tweaks I'd make:
- gaea's cradle looks better than cavern with those oozes and equips, which you always want work earlier against jund
- thorn looks random in sb. I'd change it for smth against jund or surgical extr (which is random as well, but priceless against punishing and more interesting overall). Or may be Elspeth. Otherwise, sb is solid.
- 61 cards - meh.
Good luck!
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