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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Quote Originally Posted by mcfarland View Post
    As worded, it only triggers when a creature deals combat damage to one of your opponents.

    The wording is actually fairly interesting and unique. In multiplayer games, it's asymmetrical enough to give you an advantage, but not in a way that paints a huge target on his head.
    Even if it's the only creature you control, it paints a big target on everyone's head but yours. Nobody wants to swing into him and kill the goose that's laying the golden eggs, but it certainly incites your opponents to attack each other and leave you the hell alone.
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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Quote Originally Posted by Offler View Post
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    Edric need creatures to attack and deal damage, while Momir require cards to be cast. The problem is not in Momir, problem is in a way how the deck is meant to work - green blue aggro/combo tribal elf. Sounds funny even to me but it might work really fast. (actual version which includes also black tutoring but no blue tutoring works really fast).

    The deck is currently more friendly to Edric, (trample/flying to elves)
    Fair enough. I guess I just auto-assumed when you said Elf Combo that it was an Elf-Ball style combo and not a more aggressive type of deck.

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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    My thought was also as a 1 of in a GSZ deck, but when would it be better than KotR? Good with ink/blinkmoth nexus. Bad in ink/blinkmoth nexus decks. Jace is better, w/ GSZ Fact or Fiction is even better. Def cool though.
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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Do you think this card will see play in Threshold? Seems like a natural fit.

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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Quote Originally Posted by vikram View Post
    Do you think this card will see play in Threshold? Seems like a natural fit.
    I don't see how he would ever replace Vendilion Clique, which isn't even used that much in Threshold these days. So, to give you the easy, dismissive answer: probably not. Doesn't mean he's a bad card though, per se.
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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    I think if this guy finds a home, it's going to be in an aggro heavy version of Vial Bant.
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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    I could see him in some deck in the future when pure aggro dies and everything's about aggro-control. I don't see it happening but hey.

    T2 Cloud of Faeries and Spiketail Hatchling, T3 Edric with counterbackup, attack, draw 2.
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    The biggest trouble I see with it is that in order to do something relevant, you need to have done something relevant already. You need at least two creatures that are in a position to attack unblocked to use it well ... plus, creatures nowadays tend to have enough value just by size or immediate impact.

    Maybe Elves? Forestwalk, a high threat density, and a low curve should help but I'd still prefer something that draws card post-Pyroclasm.
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    I think it's a balanced dude, pairs ok with Zenith. Maybe a bant deck that rolls with evaders and flyers (SS Sprite, River Boa, Kira) and plays Relic in the side as a four of. The comparisons to Mask are ok, but he is additionally a man who can attack.

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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanni View Post
    I think if this guy finds a home, it's going to be in an aggro heavy version of Vial Bant.
    What about Blue Zoo? Kird Ape, Wild Nacatl, and Tarmogoyf love to be attacking on turn 3.

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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    I've been testing him out in Threshold, cutting the 2 Vendillion Cliques for him. All I have to say is -- how did I ever win a game without him? He solves the problem that Thresh always had -- the lack of card advantage. If we've done our job right and knocked the opponent off-balance, we suddenly get an influx of more permission/tricks to keep the pain coming as opposed to the old "Oh God oh God I hope Goyf and Goose get there before the opponent recovers".

    Sure, he does little in a losing situation, but Thresh isn't known for its come-from-behind victories anyway. I'll take drawing cards and not dying to any creature ever over flying and flash and some meh-disruption.

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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Edric is really good. I haven't tested him in Threshold but in forceless Zenith-Bant with Mother of Runes. He is already solid on his own and extremely good with evasive guys like Spellstutter Sprite or Scryb Ranger.

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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Quote Originally Posted by troopatroop View Post
    What about Blue Zoo?
    blue zoo? seriously?
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    Re: [SCD] Edric, Spymaster of Trest *Spoiler*

    Maybe you should take a look at the New and Developmental Decks subforum before showing off your ignorance. I don't play that deck btw.

    As for the this card, I think it's alright. For 3 mana, an extra ability like Shroud or maybe Forestwalk (he is an Elf, and a spy to boot) would have been nice.

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