Tax counters are surprisingly effective in edh 1 on 1. The curve is really high and people often don't play around 1 offs like daze/pierce etc. It's also very useful in counter wars because usually the opponent will leave exact mana up for a counter spell. The early game in 1 on 1 is very important because once you stick a zur and necro, you no longer care for dead draws.
Also generals get + 2 mana cost every time they die. You will see a lot of people paying exacties mana for their general later in the game.
I just played Preator's Grasp today and the card is something you might want to look into. Grasp raises the threat count and grabs any answer you need provided opponent has it in deck and you can play it.
It was everything I thought it would be. Kind of like a Demonic Tutor that puts the opponents best card in exile for you to play it when ready.... The first one took his Bribery(Iona) and then I YWilled and recast it to take Jace2.0 just incase he got rid of the one I had in play.
Might be a bit biased after using it, but omgwtfbbq!1eleven!
Originally Posted by Cavius The Great
Preator's Grasp might be a pretty good edh card, but don't fits in this build. it is not instant speed. and you might find not the card you need
what do you think of:
mental misstep
impulse
preordain
hobble
turn aside
hindering light
countersquall
mortyfy
tainted pact
story circle
and necromancy
???
Signets in a competitive deck? :X
I just into this format today and I'm wondering why no one plays doomsday. My normal piles are
<top>
-------
ideas unbound
leyline of the void
helm of obedience
dark ritual
mana vault
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<bottom>
Note* -I don't have a meditate If I did it would replace Idea's unbound
or
<top>
brainstorm
shelldock isle
blight steel colossus
cloud of faeries
force of will
<bottom>
I guess its too situational and risky to play for what is entails.
Does anyone use Teferi in Zur? I imagine he could be quite helpful against control in making sure that we can successfully land Zur. If they counter Teferi then thats one less counter for Zur and the may be tapped out as well.
Edit: You could also perhaps benefit from Isochron Scepter. If can prove very helpful if it you can get it to stick.
Last edited by ultimoman; 06-24-2011 at 01:41 PM.
Most people don't probably because its only really effective in 1v1 play, and you are so all-in on the spell after DD resolving that some people aren't comfortable with that. I think it is pretty underused though. The second pile is a little risky, as you have to hope for no counter, no removal, no lots of opposing creatures. Seems very conditional, especially with all the bribery going around
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Yeah, I took the second pile out of my list, but still use the first. Even without doomsday helm+leyline wins games. Doomsday is my "go to" card for 1v1, while Ad Nauseam is what I use for multiplayer.
If you're going to make a competitive 1v1 deck, at least adhere to the french banlist. Your best card (Necropotence) is banned. As is Sol Ring, and Sensei's Divining Top.
French banlist? There is only one real ban list: http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php
Matt Bevenour in real life
The EDH format is not normally built to be competitive, nor was it created with 1v1 in mind. The French banlist (and rules, only difference being 30 life instead of 40) is designed with 1v1 in mind, and takes out "jump start" cards like sol ring and serra ascendant. You should adhere to it in terms of 1v1 tournaments you organize. http://www.magictrade.org/magic-foru...22162-0-0.html
Fuckin' A!
The French banned list a joke. Actually, EDH is a damn joke. I fail to see how banning top/sol ring/mana crypt and allowing people to play shit like Tolarian Acdemy, LoA, and Balance is remotely fair. But then again, it's a casual format, so play whatever you feel like.
All of those are banned, the French banlist is in addition to the normal one. Try reading it. Or, if you can't, you could always use Google translate.
You are running Hinder, but not Spell Crumple. Is there a specific reason for this?
Dispel!
I cant emphasize enough how strong this card is in competitive EDH!
Necropotence, Propaganda and Ghostly Prison are amazing targets for Zur as well. Have you considered them?
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Am playing necro and spell crumple. Haven't updated the list after commander decks were released. Will post it when I have the time. Also added command tower, misdirection and disrupt. I don't dig propaganda effects, solitary confinement is better. But usually if you are being swamped, something is wrong. An oring a turn/ infinite counter spells should be enough to win you the game. This list is assuming 1 vs 1 competitive. Confinement/propaganda/prison are very bad cards to draw, so I don't run em.
Why? Why should we adhere to it? It's not an official format banned list and if I ended up organizing a 1v1 tournament locally instead of our Pod events I wouldn't bother using the French list. I don't agree with the banning of Sol Ring and any of the fast mana cards, they're part of what makes EDH fun for a lot of people.
I understand the premise behind it, but don't agree with it.
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I'm looking to give a friend a Zur list, this looks solid enough, is there an updated list? (I tried PMing you, clean out your inbox)
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