[SCD] Flusterstorm (new commander product card)

[yawg07]

Flusterstorm
Instant - Rare
Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless it's controller pays 1.
Storm

Source: MTGS, CaptainBlack confirmed it today.

[tsabo_tavoc]

As a dedicated storm hate, < Mindbreak Trap; as a counterspell in storm, < Pact of Negation; otherwise << Spell Pierce.
Conclusion: Unplayable

Edit: To use some cleaner logic, Spell Pierce is a not too shabby against storm and used by storm, but by miles better in other circumstances. There are better options if you want narrower answers.

[2Rach]

Spell Pierce. Artifacts, enchantments, and planeswalkers. The versatility is better than the extra 1 they'd need to pay.


Edit:
This thread is now regarding Soul Snare and Chaos Warp.

[yawg07]

Yes, but unlike Mindbreak Trap, has many more uses besides hitting storm.
Also, it is of some note that this can't effectively be countered by Misstep.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Seems arguably worse than Annul, which sees no play.

[GGoober]

This is a really great card. Pierce is better for most parts, but I think this is stronger than Mindbreak Trap. Trap is great when you are catching the sequence of rits into AdN and Tendrils but is weak otherwise. This is just as punshing (pay 4) for just 1 mana, It has applications outside of catching the sequence mentioned earlier or hitting storm-based tendrils. It's still fairly powerful as a sideboard card if you are already playing Pierce maindeck or sideboard. However with storm being much less played, Pierce in the SB is usually enough, and I don't see flusterstorm being used extensively unless the meta shifts to heavy non-aggro and combo decks.

Love the design of the card though!

[GradStudentGuy]

The point of this card is it ends counter wars. If something is counter after 3-4 storm it basically not counter able unless your opponent mindbreak traps. In high tide list it may turn into a hard counter for 1 blue.

[Koby]

I still prefer Mindbreak Trap off a Cunning Wish. It has so much value in counter wars - and enables future Time Spirals to become easier (but mostly Win-more).

[Hopo]

It is a one-mana hoser for storm combo that basically can't be Misstepped. Nice one.

[lorddotm]

This is actually insane. It is a Mindbreak Trap that isn't dead against other decks, and can be used to hit the protection spell.

And that is just against Storm.

In the control match up it just wins the counter wars without being dead against other stuff. This is actually just retarded.

[JCLe]

stupidest card in awhile (aka since a few weeks with mental misstep), nice counter war ender, it is superior to mindbreak trap in this way : it can't be countered back (except by itself or mindbreak trap... wtf), or you just counter/pay X copy to push X spells through, some won't pass, but you have to pay U to play it. You guys already mentionned the other stuff.

[lordofthepit]

Better than Mindbreak Trap. Slightly weaker against Storm, but applicable in counterwars. Also one of the few Counterspells that will hit Pacts against Hive Mind, if I correctly understand that the Hive Mind trigger will put a Flusterstorm copy onto the stack for the opponent, but it will not trigger storm on the second copy.

[Bryant Cook]

Does this come in Japanese foil?

[yawg07]

Does this come in Japanese foil?

Nope, but it DOES come in Japanese.

[Dia_Bot]

How is this card even slightly good in the commander format? It seems totally out of place.

[Admiral_Arzar]

How is this card even slightly good in the commander format? It seems totally out of place.

This is just another excuse for WOTC to print even more hate for everyone's favorite abomination of a mechanic. The irony is that this hate card actually features said mechanic

[Malchar]

How is this card even slightly good in the commander format? It seems totally out of place.

Storm is quite good in EDH multiplayer. You can end someone else's counter-war or your own. Soft counters aren't that great, but it only costs 1. In a counter-heavy EDH deck, it might be slightly better than other soft counters. Definitely not an auto-include though.

[Antonius]

Oh, i missed the part where it could only target instants and sorceries.

At first I thought it was straight up force spike with storm. Then, about five minutes later, I got up from the floor laughing and re-read the card. it's still pretty good.

[Tammit67]

Good thing it doesn't stop my storm entity.

Yes I'm joking

[CranialX]

is this legal in other formats? or commander alone?