[M12 Cards]

[bruizar]

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[bruizar]

It all depends on whether or not this card can be good enough on its own. Scepter / Chant 'wins' but isn't played, Ancient Grudge / Liquimetal Coating-Gorilla Shaman very powerful but even in vintage where there's always a couple of moxen to eat it's not played.

Sundial will not be a good card because people will simply use their removal in on their own turn. This makes Sundial incapable of doing anything relevant UNLESS you play a card that enables this thing to do broken stuff.

Also, Astral Slide, Sundial is a 3 card combo as you also need to invest in cyclers.

It looks good on paper, but it's a trap.



I do actually like Chandra Firebrand's second ability. It works especially well with removal and burn (STP/Ancient Grudge/Lightning Bolt/Thoughtseize/Fireblast) but I'm sure there's something far stronger. Too bad Chandra can't protect itself.

[pcccp]

Sundial makes me crazy. I would love to brew a funky new deck with this. All the Parallax enchantments from Nemesis work. Removing all lands mit Parallax Tide or 5 handcards with Parallax Nexus is really cool. Other cards i would consider:

- Solitary Confinement
- Flickerwisp / Glimmer Stag
- Glacial Chasm

[pcccp]

I think creatures with evoke would work well. Evoke Shriekmaw second mainphase and because you control the trigger you can let the "terror" resolve and then end the turn in response to the sacrifice trigger.

[Gui]

I like how the new chandra fits a Red Stax-like deck as kill-con and creature-dealer alongside Ensnaring Bridge, and how Red Stax now has a draw spell... Damn, can someone craft a decent Red Stax already?

[Nihil Credo]

and how Red Stax now has a draw spell...

Did I miss a memo?

[Gui]

Did I miss a memo?

Sorry. Tezzeret's Gambit. Which is fancy with the second ability too (draw 4, proliferate 2x, chandra goes intact). ^^

Edit: I just realized you can ploriferate a CotV to 2, and a Stax to a first turn 1 oO

[Sims]

Sorry. Tezzeret's Gambit. Which is fancy with the second ability too (draw 4, proliferate 2x, chandra goes intact). ^^

Edit: I just realized you can ploriferate a CotV to 2, and a Stax to a first turn 1 oO

Gambit only proliferates once, unless I'm reading it wrong. But yes, in a pinch you can cast it and proliferate your Stax from 1 to 2, or your chalice from 1-2, to speed up your lock. Note that due to proliferate needing a counter on the permanent already, you cannot proliferate from 0-1.

[Gui]

Gambit only proliferates once, unless I'm reading it wrong. But yes, in a pinch you can cast it and proliferate your Stax from 1 to 2, or your chalice from 1-2, to speed up your lock. Note that due to proliferate needing a counter on the permanent already, you cannot proliferate from 0-1.

Yup, stax to 1 was wrong, sorry.

But you can copy Gambit with Chandra's second ability, using the proliferate twice. That's what I meant

[TheCramp]

If you copy GSZ X=4 with new Chandra, is the copy's X 0 or 4? I think it's 4, but I could be mistaken.

[Justin]

It is a 4. X for the copy will be whatever X was for the first spell.

[Sims]

Yup, stax to 1 was wrong, sorry.

But you can copy Gambit with Chandra's second ability, using the proliferate twice. That's what I meant

True enough. She does have potential, and as someone who loved playing stax and mud i do hope we can make something viable at some point. I'm not sure she's the planeswalker to do it, but her casting cost is at least a step in the right direction.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

True enough. She does have potential, and as someone who loved playing stax and mud i do hope we can make something viable at some point. I'm not sure she's the planeswalker to do it, but her casting cost is at least a step in the right direction.

But stax is mostly permanents, so shes just a 4 mana pinger. The synergy with gambit is nice but not game breaking. Draw 4 for (P)... hmmmm

[swoop]

smallpox is in

[The Big Ragu]

The satchel is cute. I can't think of any way for it to be amazing, but I like it.

[Heresy]

EDIT :

Grand Abolisher

Hoses blue and combat trick, I like it.

[NecroYawgmoth]

I think Garruk is unplayable in Legacy 5 mana and 3 of them = GGG in the mana cost is too much to be any playable.

Angelic Destiny looks kinda cute in a Hatebear-Stompy or Angel-Stompyish deck, the problem I see with it is that creatures don't die in Legacy. They go Exile. Would be nice if Angelic Destiny had Rancor wording like "When Angelic Destiny is put into a graveyard from the battlefield", but with the actual wording, I don't think its playable =(

Nevertheless, I think Elspeth does the job better in these kinda decks.


We also got this thing from Starcity, which seems kinda good:



Grand Abolisher WW
Creature - Human Cleric /// Rare
During your turn, your opponents can't cast spells or activate abilities of artifacts, creatures or enchantments.
2/2

[boneclub24]

Hmm... hatebear for the already-dying Countertop?

[Mirrislegend]

"_____ and Taxes" just went through the roof with that guy. No countermagic, no Vial or SFM for blockers or haste, no removal during combat. This is the stones.

[4eak]

I like Grand Abolisher a lot. It is a fairly unique and powerful effect at a low cost. By powerful, I'm not necessarily saying it is going to be worth using (although, I'll certainly be testing it in several WW and GW variants), but being able to largely blank your opponent's ability to interact with you on your own turn is impressive.



peace,
4eak