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    "the Ardent Fire"? How is that a hilarious name?
    Ardent - "fiery, hot, warmth of feeling from being zealous, shining, glowing" etc

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    I always thought that ardent meant devoted, dedicated, etc.

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    From dictionary.com:

    — adj
    1. expressive of or characterized by intense desire or emotion; passionate: ardent love
    2. intensely enthusiastic; eager: an ardent longing
    3. glowing, flashing, or shining: ardent eyes
    4. rare burning: an ardent fever

    Seems fitting and not redundant :P

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    Re: [M12 Cards]

    looks like mtgsally ruled they are fake at the moment

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    Hooray, Chandra is now playable. I love this 3cc Walker. Way better design than Beleren.

    Edit: Fake cards are fake. Sad.
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    I don't like them much. I'm kind of happy since it means I won't have to buy any of this set so far for Standard even.

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    I see a couple cool things in M12 but nothing Legacy grade yet. Chandra's Phoenix could potentially see play but I don't think it's Legacy grade in the end but recursion and evasion and haste for 3 probably makes it the best new card yet. New Jace is good for Standard. I mean they fixed Jace TMS so what more could you want. As far as Legacy 1000x no, he will never see play because his name is Jace and there is only room for one Jace in Legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amon Amarth View Post
    From dictionary.com:

    — adj
    1. expressive of or characterized by intense desire or emotion; passionate: ardent love
    2. intensely enthusiastic; eager: an ardent longing
    3. glowing, flashing, or shining: ardent eyes
    4. rare burning: an ardent fever

    Seems fitting and not redundant :P
    Ardent has become a colloquial/poetic term for passion, but the literal meaning is "on fire." It is like saying, "Okay, so this Frost Titan planeswalker person is really detached and callous, what's a term for that, oh Icy." And calling it the Icy Frost Titan.
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    While the origin of the word mean literally "burned by fire" (from the latin verb ardère), figurative uses of it are common in italian since the XIII century, see for example the form "sabbia ardente (ardent sand)->very hot sand" or "carboni ardenti (ardent coal)->very hot coal, but not literally on fire" (visive sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mBX...ailpage#t=128s ).

    In this sense "fiamma ardente" in italian mean "hot/intense flame" and i suppose it's the case in english too.

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    Icy is also commonly used as a figurative expression, but if you described someone as "The Icy Frost" it would be retarded for reasons that are obvious.

    Regardless, fake card is fake so la now I'm sad.
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    Hunter's Insight looks like it could fit nicely into Berserk Stompy. A fresh hand after a combo turn sounds pretty tight.
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    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=334367

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    Re: [M12 Cards]

    Dredge gets a new toy. It is strong.

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    Reusable removal in Dredge. On color with Ichorid synergy.

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    Don't forget SCG's awesome new preview that they were hyping on SCGLive coverage: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/s...mbleverse.html
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    Hmmm, Vengeful is the first card that got my interest. That's pretty damned good. I don't play Dredge but I can figure out that one easy enough. It IS strong.

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    Re: [M12 Cards]

    Quote Originally Posted by ktkenshinx View Post
    Dredge gets a new toy. It is strong.

    Vengeful Pharaoh
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    Whenever combat damage is dealt to you or a planeswalker you control, if Vengeful Pharaoh is in your graveyard, destroy target creature attacking you, then put Vengeful Pharaoh on top of your library.
    5/4



    Reusable removal in Dredge. On color with Ichorid synergy.
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    I'm sorry, but I don't see the value this has in Dredge. As long as your graveyard isn't nuked, you should already be on your way to winning, correct? If you let creatures through so they die from Pharaoh, they'll just wipe out your Bridges. As for troublesome creatures (e.g. Teeg, Blazing Archon), they can just not attack with them.
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    Dunno, that Vengeful Pharaoh seems kinda bad.

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    Well, it's going to take some restructuring, but it's basically a No Mercy that you can't get rid of easily with main deck items. I could see using it in several decks actually. You guys make a good point on dredge, but that's a seriously powerful effect.


    Seems absolutely bonkers with Gideon.

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    Re: [M12 Cards]

    Perhaps a Legacy port of the Crypt of Agadeem decks of Standard?
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