[Los Angeles, CA] Sunday August 21, 2011 Knight Ware FBB French Tundras $20 Entry

[everythingitouchdies]

I'm on board.

Threatening to boycott KW because of DQs is pretty immature. The penalty for collusion is harsh, and it sucks to have happen to good players, but rules are rules and they have to be followed to uphold the integrity of the game.

I will echo this sentiment.

[Krieg]

Here are the decktypes that began the top 8
(lists to follow. If I screwed up on a card name, feel free to correct me)

TES
Aggro Loam (Jund)
Team America (Esper)
No Force Bant
Hive Mind
Cephalid Breakfast
High Tide
Hive Mind


the rest
9th Manaless Dredge
10th Hypergenesis
11th NO RUG
12th UBG Landstill
13th Reanimator
14th Elves
15th UW Control
16th Merfolk
17th Merfolk
18th Zenith Bant
19th BG Ooze
20th 4 Horsemen
21st Junk
22nd UW Control
23rd UG Madness
24th Zenith Bant
25th Zenith Bant
26th Aggro Bant
27th Merfolk
28th 4 Horsemen
29th Goblins
30th Dredge
31st Zoo
32nd UW Stoneblade
33rd Dredge
34th Burn
35th Hive Mind
36th Living End
37th Reanimator
38th Aggro Loam
39th Junk Deapths
40th UW Control
41st NO RUG
42nd Merfolk
43rd Hive Mind
44th UW Control
45th White Stax
46th Merfolk
47th NO RUG
48th Zenith Bant
49th Zoo
50th Merfolk
51st NO RUG
52nd Pyromancer Ascension
53rd Maverick
54th Zoo
55th UW Control



[TES]

Main Deck
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
2 City Of Brass
4 Gemstone Mine
1 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
4 Chrome Mox
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Dark Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Duress
3 Orim's Chant
1 Xantid Swarm
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning Wish
2 Ad Nauseam
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
qty: 60

Sideboard
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Empty the Warrens
1 DeathMark
1 Shattering Spree
1 Grapeshot
1 Pyroblast
3 Xantid Swarm
2 Echoing Truth
1 Thoughtseize
1 Ill-gotten Gains
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Diminishing Returns
qty: 15




[Aggro Loam (Jund)]

Main Deck
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Bloodstained Mire
1 Forest
2 Mountain
3 Taiga
1 Bayou
1 Badlands
4 Wasteland
1 Volrath's Stronghold
3 Tranquil Thicket
4 Forgotten Cave
4 Mox Diamond
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Dark Confidant
4 Countryside Crusher
4 Life from the Loam
2 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Devastating Dreams
3 Seismic Assault
4 Lightning Bolt
qty: 60

Sideboard
2 Krosan Grip
4 Pyroblast
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Perish
1 Pernicious Deed
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Yixlid Jailer
qty: 15


lists

[Team America (Esper)]

Main Deck
4 Force Of Will
4 Brainstorm
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Batterskull
2 Marsh Flats
4 Swords To Plowshares
4 Polluted Delta
4 Stifle
3 Underground Sea
3 Daze
3 Flooded Strand
2 Tundra
4 Hymn To Tourach
4 Mental Misstep
2 Scrubland
4 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Ponder
3 Tombstalker
4 Wasteland
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
qty: 60

Sideboard
2 Perish
2 Thoughtseize
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Diabolic Edict
3 Ghastly Demise
qty: 15




[No Force Bant]

Main Deck
4 Brainstorm
4 Mental Misstep
4 Swords To Plowshares
3 Daze
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Birds of Paradise
3 Noble Hierarch
3 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Forest
4 Tropical Island
2 Tundra
1 Savannah
4 Windswept Heath
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Wasteland
1 Karakas
1 Maze Of Ith
qty: 60

Sideboard
2 Krosan Grip
2 Rhox War Monk
3 Spell Pierce
3 Submerge
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Path to Exile
1 Bojuka Bog
qty: 15




[Hive Mind]

Main Deck
3 City Of Traitors
3 Ancient Tomb
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
3 Grim Monolith
3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Slaughter Pact
2 Summoner's Pact
3 Pact of the Titan
4 Pact of Negation
4 Brainstorm
4 Hive Mind
4 Ponder
4 Show And Tell
4 Intuition
4 Force Of Will
qty: 60

Sideboard
4 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Spell Pierce
4 Mental Misstep
3 Firespout
1 Slaughter Pact
qty: 15




[Cephalid Breakfast]

Main Deck
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Flooded Strand
3 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
1 Savannah
2 Island
1 Plains
4 Nomads En-kor
1 Shaman En-kor
4 Cephalid Illusionist
4 Eladamri's Call
4 Brainstorm
3 Ponder
4 AEther Vial
3 Cabal Therapy
1 The Mimeoplasm
1 Dread Return
1 Giant Solifuge
1 Lord of Extinction
2 Stifle
4 Mental Misstep
2 Grand Abolisher
2 Narcomoeba
qty: 60

Sideboard
3 Leyline of the Void
1 Extirpate
1 Qasali Pridemage
4 Thoughtseize
1 Crippling Fatigue
1 Grand Abolisher
2 Echoing Truth
2 Flusterstorm
qty: 15




[High Tide]

Main Deck
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 Cloud Of Faeries
1 Brain Freeze
2 Preordain
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Merchant Scroll
4 Turnabout
4 High Tide
1 Snap
1 Mental Misstep
1 Counterspell
1 Flusterstorm
4 Force Of Will
2 Cunning Wish
1 Meditate
4 Time Spiral
2 Intuition
12 Island
2 Polluted Delta
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Scalding Tarn
qty: 60

Sideboard
1 Snap
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Intuition
1 Rebuild
2 Wipe Away
1 Echoing Truth
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 Ravenous Trap
1 Brain Freeze
2 Pact of Negation
2 Mental Misstep
1 Meditate
qty: 15




[Hive Mind]

Main Deck
4 Hive Mind
4 Show And Tell
4 Force Of Will
4 Pact of Negation
3 Pact of the Titan
2 Summoner's Pact
3 Grim Monolith
4 Intuition
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Slaughter Pact
3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
5 Island
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Underground Sea
4 Ancient Tomb
2 City Of Traitors
qty: 60

Sideboard
4 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Vendilion Clique
3 Steel Hellkite
4 Mental Misstep
1 Slaughter Pact
qty: 15

[COBBLER]

Sorry about my hand writing its a DeathMark that u cant read.

[sclabman]

I'm not quite sure about what happens, but barring any misconduct from judges I'm inclined to agree with Keys and everythingitouchdies.

[lorddotm]

Should we get on the no more Intentional Draw plan as well? Play out every round like thugs?

I will make you play it out

But lets be honest, Alex and Mark should've taken a page out of the Shug Knight school of thinking.

Do what you do. Don't get caught ever.

Also, I think out local scene needs more substance abuse. Lets get on that.

[Antonius]

Also, I think out local scene needs more substance abuse. Lets get on that.

At round 6 Mark was telling me that "looked really tired."

Nah, dude, my eyes are just red from the chlorine. What with all this bowling i've been doing.

ha ha ha ha

[Popnlock]

Hi my name is Jonathan and I played in the tournament. This was my first knightware tournament and second tournament overall so I'm sorry I don't know names. I do not know the DQ players personally but saw what transpired. I did bad and did not make top 8 but while everyone was watching the top 8 matches I was in the other room trading. In that room was also the two players, Mark and Alex? One was buff white guy the other was asian with a beard. Mark told Alex did you remember tell them I concede and Alex said oh crap and both players went inside to the judges. While that was happening some tall asian guy (he plays hive mind) mentions they can get better prizes to the rest of their group/friends. I then see a white skinny guy hurry go to Lori and tell her something, I don't know if it was about that. Being nosy I stop trading and go to the other room. There the tall asian guy tells Alex it's possible for them to get better prize and when Alex realize told Lori and later the white guy playing high tide that he doesn't care about the prizes just the dci points that he will take last place prize. That happened in the tournament room so I'm sure others heard that too. Also when the main tall judge went to discuss about the situation he took two people that had played in the tournament alone in private room, one of those players were in the top 8 for prize as well. Also after the prizes were done I heard a dark skinned fellow say thanks to the judges he got a much better prize. I don't know if the players that got prizes were friends with the judges or not and I don't mean to imply that I'm just saying what I saw. I also agree if it was bad judging it wasn't knightware's fault.

[lorddotm]

Hi my name is Jonathan and I played in the tournament. This was my first
Knightware tournament and second tournament overall so I'm sorry I don't know names. I do not know the DQ players personally but saw what transpired. I did bad and did not make top 8 but while everyone was watching the top 8 matches I was in the other room trading. In that room was also the two players, Mark and Alex? One was buff white guy the other was asian with a beard. Mark told Alex did you remember tell them I concede and Alex said oh crap and both players went inside to the judges. While that was happening some tall asian guy (he plays hive mind) mentions they can get better prizes to the rest of their group/friends. I then see a white skinny guy hurry go to Lori and tell her something, I don't know if it was about that. Being nosy I stop trading and go to the other room. There the tall asian guy tells Alex it's possible for them to get better prize and when Alex realize told Lori and later the white guy playing high tide that he doesn't care about the prizes just the dci points that he will take last place prize. That happened in the tournament room so I'm sure others heard that too. Also when the main tall judge went to discuss about the situation he took two people that had played in the tournament alone in private room, one of those players were in the top 8 for prize as well. Also after the prizes were done I heard a dark skinned fellow say thanks to the judges he got a much better prize. I don't know if the players that got prizes were friends with the judges or not and I don't mean to imply that I'm just saying what I saw.

Dark AND skinny?

I'm like 99% sure this is a fat white man's game.

But in all honesty, everyone who has ever met Kevin Long (he was the head jduge) would take a bullet for him, he's just an amazing guy.

Also, the only possible dark dude was high as fuck, so whatever he said can pretty much be ignored.

At round 6 Mark was telling me that "looked really tired."

Nah, dude, my eyes are just red from the chlorine. What with all this bowling i've been doing.

ha ha ha ha

I literally spent like 3-4 minutes crying I was laughing so hard.

You should go bowling with chlorine more often. You won the Emerald like that.

Cause remember. We don't give a fuck we just drinkin', smokin', straight West COASTIN'!

[sclabman]

I can count the number of black people who I know play magic on one hand. Actually... one finger. There's just one.

[Popnlock]

Sorry I meant he was not black but just darker skinned.

[everythingitouchdies]

I literally spent like 3-4 minutes crying I was laughing so hard.

You should go bowling with chlorine more often. You won the Emerald like that.

Cause remember. We don't give a fuck we just drinkin', smokin', straight West COASTIN'!

Thug Life. I was tame for this one. At least during the rounds I lost. And still never went bowling with Amy.

[lorddotm]

Thug Life. I was tame for this one. At least during the rounds I lost. And still never went bowling with Amy.

I will try and pick some more up before Sunday at MTGDeals. The shit is pretty expensive, that is why I didn't have a ton (60 an 8th, which for clubs is like unreal).

Next time, I recommend sticking around with me and Tony if you wanna go bowling (this goes to everyone who wants to go bowling).

[everythingitouchdies]

I will have to make sunday. I have a new deck.

[Que]

I will try and pick some more up before Sunday at MTGDeals. The shit is pretty expensive, that is why I didn't have a ton (60 an 8th, which for clubs is like unreal).

Next time, I recommend sticking around with me and Tony if you wanna go bowling (this goes to everyone who wants to go bowling).

I may take you up on that offer. x]

I was looking at tony and was like yep this guy is blown. haha. Though idk that I have the capacity to play like that. not in a tourney anyway.

[everythingitouchdies]

For the record, I don't smoke.

[lorddotm]

I may take you up on that offer. x]

I was looking at tony and was like yep this guy is blown. haha. Though idk that I have the capacity to play like that. not in a tourney anyway.

You would be surprised. Playing after bowling is actually pretty easy, try it. Tony actually plays better when high.

And Ben, none of us smoke, we bowl.

[everythingitouchdies]

You would be surprised. Playing after bowling is actually pretty easy, try it. Tony actually plays better when high.

And Ben, none of us smoke, we bowl.

Just wanted to be clear about it.

[Ghightide]

Hi my name is Jonathan and I played in the tournament. This was my first knightware tournament and second tournament overall so I'm sorry I don't know names. I do not know the DQ players personally but saw what transpired. I did bad and did not make top 8 but while everyone was watching the top 8 matches I was in the other room trading. In that room was also the two players, Mark and Alex? One was buff white guy the other was asian with a beard. Mark told Alex did you remember tell them I concede and Alex said oh crap and both players went inside to the judges. While that was happening some tall asian guy (he plays hive mind) mentions they can get better prizes to the rest of their group/friends. I then see a white skinny guy hurry go to Lori and tell her something, I don't know if it was about that. Being nosy I stop trading and go to the other room. There the tall asian guy tells Alex it's possible for them to get better prize and when Alex realize told Lori and later the white guy playing high tide that he doesn't care about the prizes just the dci points that he will take last place prize. That happened in the tournament room so I'm sure others heard that too. Also when the main tall judge went to discuss about the situation he took two people that had played in the tournament alone in private room, one of those players were in the top 8 for prize as well. Also after the prizes were done I heard a dark skinned fellow say thanks to the judges he got a much better prize. I don't know if the players that got prizes were friends with the judges or not and I don't mean to imply that I'm just saying what I saw. I also agree if it was bad judging it wasn't knightware's fault.

obviously you didnt hear right because that conversation was directed to Ryan N. saying he could've got these prizes if he got the infernal tutor instead of tendrils against Weston with clique. This whole situation probably started with some dummy hearing one part of a conversation between friends and twisting it in his own head and telling a judge or something. I really dont know what to say, if the judges really did DQ them off information from some guy overhearing half of a conversation.......


Also why is Alex and Marks decklists posted for top 8 if they were DQ'd, everything about the ending of that tournament was so wrong.

[Popnlock]

Sorry I wasn't clear I meant that I was in the other the whole time when Mark remembered to concede and he and Alex went to tell the judges and I didn't hear them talk about prizes or splits at all. It was other guys talking about it after they already left that may have made others suspicious. Also I don't know if it is relevant but I heard Alex telling the judge he had told him they were conceding before the match and the judge says he does not remember. I did hear it as others did as well since it was crowded but it was not right before whatever match they were playing (semi? quarter?) but it was before the top 8 started when everyone was looking at standings, at the time I thought it was a joke and it looked like the judge did too but the judge was done showing standings and as he and Alex walked by each other he told him "my opponents scooping to me" with a laugh so it sounded like a joke but he also said "I thought I'd tell a judge" and the tall judge just nodded and kept walking by him.

[Que]

You would be surprised. Playing after bowling is actually pretty easy, try it. Tony actually plays better when high.

And Ben, none of us smoke, we bowl.

haha. Fo sho.

All I've done is drafted after I had some edibles. But I must have gotten some crazy shit because I was trippin bawls to the point where people were starting to walk like South Park characters rofl.

And to stay on topic. Congrats to Weston. You bastard broke my streak against Storm decks in tourneys.
And big ups to Phil. See ya at the office. xD