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    6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    I have a healthy paranoia of Wasteland.

    That more or less described my weekend at SCG Vegas this past week. Being in close proximity to the City of Sin and living in the greater Los Angeles region affords me multiple opportunities to visit. So when the West Coast Legacy crew heard that the LA stop of SCG Opens would be moved to Las Vegas we all felt cheated. Clearly SCG doesn't want to have a repeat of Ben Perry's drunken Belching, or Liam Kane's storm-shenanigans beating up on their Grinder darlings. No, it's much simpler in fact. They want to provide an alternative to players who can't wade through the ranks of infinite rounds to hit the casino tables instead. For this, I applaud Star City Games even if I did not need to utilize it.

    The journey starts several months ago. At the time, Mental Misstep was pervasive. This really left only several options for real competitive Legacy decks: Show and Tell decks, Natural Order decks, and Stoneforge Mystic decks. Luckily, the DCI decided that Mental Misstep was a Mistake, and things were starting to look on the up. At the time of the announcement I was already playing GW Maverick. Initially when I looked at the deck I thought to myself "Self: how does this deck win? It's a pile of weak utility creatures!" But I relented and my good friend Chuck Madlangbayan (aka SuperProxy) who has been playing Bant and other GW brews all throughout this year showed me how much it schools a lot of decks. We worked together for a while to tweak the list we've been seening in Europe to suit the American metagame. The first real shift we did was tune the E-tutor sideboard and cut all the chaff. Around June of this past year is when I put in some serious MTGO Daily Event testing with the deck to understand how it operates in a varied metagame. Let's just say it was a very successful deck. This convinced me that the deck is good in a metagame that isn't infested with combo decks. From this experience with the deck I was ready to start looking at the metagame and determine if I was going to commit to Maverick.

    Chuck and I are still debating whether Aven Mindcensor is worthy the slot in the maindeck. We both agree that if it cost 2 mana like white's other hate bears it would be the most ridiculous card ever. But it being 3 mana is really flooding the 3cc slot in Maverick. For Las Vegas, I was anticipating lots of Snapcaster Mages for which have been doing well in the past few weeks at SCG events. Additionally, I noticed that my singleton Scavenging Ooze was very vulnerable to removal and I wanted to have a 2nd copy for which to continue disrupting g/y decks. In the week before the event I decided to pull the trigger and cut the Aven Mindcensors to put in the 2nd copy of Ooze and the 4th Mother of Runes. That latter addition was felt justified due to all the tempo decks packing tons of cheap removal. Landing Mother of Runes really throughs a wrench into the monkey works that Tempo tries to establish in the early game. I finally settled on this list:

    4 Windswepth Heath
    2 Misty Rainforest
    4 Savannah
    2 Forest
    1 Plains
    2 Horizon Canopy
    4 Wasteland
    1 Karakas
    1 Gaea's Cradle
    1 Dryad Arbor

    4 Noble Hierarch
    4 Mother of Runes
    4 Knight of the Reliquary
    3 Stoneforge Mystic
    3 Qasali Pridemage
    2 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Scryb Ranger
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Terravore
    1 Thrun, the Last Troll
    1 Gaddock Teeg

    4 Sword to Plowshares
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Batterskull
    2 Sylvan Library

    Sideboard:
    2 Choke
    2 Enlightened Tutor
    2 Ethersworn Canonist
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Thorn of Amethyst
    1 Maze of Ith
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
    1 Path to Exile
    1 Phyrexian Metamorph
    1 Sword of Light and Shadow
    1 Life from the Loam

    In the weeks leading up to the event I started to get enamored with Eric English's Next Level Threshold list updated for the post-MM metagame. I had previously tried it in the last SCG LA event, but floundered at a miserable 2-3 losing to 3 tribal decks. I took the deck to the LGS Majestix for a Saturday night tourney. The crowd was usual, and I taught everyone how much fun miserable it is to play against Stifle. This is when I really got a chance to test against the UW Snap-Blade deck and determined that I need a deck with much more threats against a possibility of 8x StP. Maverick it was!

    The drive out to Vegas was pretty much run of the mill. I drove over to Caleb Neufield's apartment in LA and we tested our decks out against each other. He's on Dredge and I on Maverick. After a few games we were convinced that the best SB plan for his deck was 4 Firestorm and 0 Chain of Vapor. He get some sleep while the sky opens up a deluge. In the morning, we meet up with Joe and Leo, and carpool in Joe's car to Vegas. On Friday afternoon after we arrive at the venue, we all attend the Judge conference and partake in discussions about cheating, stealing, and My Little Ponies. Awesome! Get to meet some people from all around at this conference, then half way through Liam, Kevin Long, and Ben Perry show up.

    After the conference, the four of us go on a booze run. The actual adults in our group (everyone but Liam) buy some variation of whiskey, while Liam gets his smoking habit on. We head back to the hotel and break in their non-smoking room in with various substances. After a few bowls, we start to test our decks out a bit when Patrick Sullivan shows up for some adult beverages. He can't stay for long, but he does play a deck games and can't help but note that fair decks are miserable in Legacy when Blue is so damn good, and keeps getting better. He gives me a few pointers on not jumping the gun with Wasteland. Thanks Pat! John Harduvel aka Hardyballs, Tony DeVeyra, and Brain Phelan finally show up after probably close to 10 hours of Las Vegas traffic. During this time, Ben is starting to get buzzed and claims that he is the best source of knowledge for alcohol this side of the Mississippi. Naturally, he has been transplanted here from Detriot, which only works to increase his credibility. We retire early into the morning after trying to convince Kevin Long not to throw $30 away by playing in the Standard event. Not much luck with that.

    The next morning, Hardyballs, Tony DeVeyra, and Liam all go out for some real food. Tony and Liam are thoroughly baked for this trip into the Strip, and everything seems wonderful for them. Tony keeps saying that Vegas is the Anus of American culture. I suggest the Mandalay Bay Bayside buffet. We arrive there, and promptly get No-Sirred since it's only $25. Not being able to convince the team, we walk around looking for something else. We stop by a cafe that has Krispy Kreme donuts and grab a table. Tony is amazed about the double espresso I order; not being able to believe how small the coffee is. When the waitress comes back to take our food orders, Tony slowly starts giving her his order. The trouble is that he's mumbling to himself about the vegatarian options and no one, including the three of us can't understand him. The waitress tells him after about 30 seconds of this rambling "I didn't understand a single thing you just said". The three of us have a good laugh with Tony about it. The meal ends up being about $25 per person...

    We go to check out the Shark Tank at the Mandalay Bay, but it costs money. We're too poor to afford $18 to see caged sharks. On the way back, I spot something enormous...



    The largest wine tower I have ever seen. I love Las Vegas. Nothing in this town is unique. It's literally a cultural wasteland. Who are the people that pay money to travel to the desert and stay at New York, New York casino and see cheap replicas of NY's architecture? It's pathetic.

    We continued to walk up the Strip and come across some shady looking gentlemen handing out stripper cards. We suggest that Liam uses them as Goblin tokens when he combos off, but he counters that they would be better used as Germ tokens for my Batterskull. We all agree that's much better and try to find the skankiest looking stripper, by the name of Kim. I'm sure her father must be very proud of his daughter. We walk up to the Bellagio to check out the fountain show, but when we show up the performance is ending. We decide that we'd rather not wait around an hour in the 40 deg weather for the next performance and head back just in time to get ready for the Legacy Challenge.

    I finalize my SB with the Metamorph in anticipation of Reanimator (since that's how West Coast rolls). Kevin starts to brew up some Legacy ideas and is thinking about playing some version of High Tide. We have a discussion about the deck, and ultimately I suggest him to play a deck he knows well, plays well, and likes to play. This is the crux of the Legacy format boiled down. You don't have to be a good player, or even be playing a good deck. All you need is to play your deck well and know it well. He decides that makes a lot of sense and audibles into Reanimator.

    Round 1 - Affinity (2-0)
    Pretty uneventful match. My opponent isn't too familiar with Batterskull, and I gain a ton of life and make his day not so bright. I think he was running Galvanic Blast, which is sometimes unusual.

    Round 2 - Next Level Blue (2-1)
    My opponent's deck looks a lot like Calasso's CB/Rug list from a few weeks ago. I still play around Stifle when I can. I think KotR resolves and he can't deal with it. I never see Counterbalance played too, so it might have been harder if I had. I notice right away that Delver of Secrets is a bitch to deal. What a little motherfucker!

    Round 3 - ??? (win)
    Whiskey seems to have taken its toll. I don't remember what I played against.

    Round 4 - ANT (draw)
    We split for prizes. I then learn he's on ANT and feel relieved.

    I take the prize credit and pick up a 2nd Ooze so I can return my loaned copy to Caleb. During the tournament I met a few Source lurkers. I met Norm and his younger brother playing GW maverick. I also meet Joe from New England area. He's playing UGw Tempo (*rant* because goddamn nothing is ever new in Legacy. Take a look at the archives UGr Tempo and UGw Tempo were the number one decks many years ago.) We discuss our decks and strategies for the Sunday event and play a few games. I end up crushing him on the play, and get crushed on the draw - as typical against Tempo.

    At this time we learn that Lu Cai has made Top 8 with his U/R burn deck in the Standard event. Awesome! Good job Lu!

    We then head back to the smoker's den and Liam has invited the SCG darlings over to partake in mind altering activities. Edgar Flores, Nick Spagnalo, and Jacob Van Lunen show up and chill out. Hardyballs, Ben, Kevin, and I head out to grab some Earl of Sandwiches. Kevin has an insanely smart idea - take some sammiches to go. After a few days of drinking, I'm starting to feel like I need real sustenance so I order veggie sandwiches, which are still plenty good. After we nosh, Ben starts to wonder over to Fat Tuesdays to get his grain alcoholism on. He meets some lovely ladies and offers them a chance to party with us. However, he being a fine gentleman, scholar, and Good People, he informs them upfront that we're a bunch of nerds and stoners. This doesn't sit too well with the ladies. He comes back to let us know that it did not work.

    We come back to the den and only Jacob Van Lunen remains with Liam and Tony. Ben decides it's now the time to crack his two boxes of Innistrad he recieved for judging the Standard event. We proceed to litter the room with ban Transform cards and scary looking pieces of cardboard. I retire early with the intention of winning something big.
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    Cultural Wasteland - part duex.

    The next morning I wake up early and eat the 2nd sammich I got at Earl of Sandwiches (best idea Kevin!), and make a cup of awful hotel room coffee. Hardyballs and I head over to the event to get ready to play some Legacy.

    Round 1 - Affinity (0-2)
    Game 1 - My opponent reveals during shuffling that he's on Affinity. That allows me to know to keep a hand with StP. I try to stay in control, but Etched Champion makes attacking difficult. He topdecks a 2nd Cranial Plating for his Champion and alpha strikes.

    Game 2 - He gets an early Tezzeret Agent of Bolas out, while I'm holding onto Gaddock Teeg in hand. I kill Tezz, but he casts a second. All the meanwhile he's got a Plate'd Ornithopter that's threating lethal. I majjjjjjoooorrrllly punt by attacking Tezz with only my KotR, rather than the whole team, and promptly lose to Tezz ult.

    DAMN this is the last place I want to be, in the loser's bracket fighting bad tie breakers and mediocre decks. The rest of the LA crew is 1-0, so at least I won't have the possibility of fighting one of them on my recovery. I try to remain cool under the pressure and play tighter.

    Round 2 - ANT (2-1)
    Game 1 - I'm on the play, start with Noble Hierarch. He goes Sea Ponder. I Waste his land to buy some time, putting him on either Reanimator or Combo, then cast Scavenging Ooze. He plays another Sea and another cantrip, corroborating my suspection. I cast some irrelevants on my turn, then on his he uses Infernal Tutor to double up on Cabal Ritual, and now I know my matchup. EOT I eat the Infernal Tutor, suspecting any recursion. His next turn involves IGG but without any business spell or tutor. He takes back a Ponder, and finds Tendrils of Agony on top. I lose 20 life.

    Game 2 - I start with a land, and pass with Etutor in hand. He doesn't go off, so I find Canonist and cast it the next turn. I topdeck Gaddock Teeg, and he packs it in quickly after that.

    Game 3 - I keep a decent hand with Hierarch and Teeg. On his turn, he Gitaxian Probe's me and sees all his problems. He attempts to go off, but is 1 storm short, and I go to 2 life. I cast Gaddock Teeg on his empty hand, and slowly bring him back down over the course of the next 4 turns.

    Alright! recovery time! I grab some water and try to shake off any tension.

    Round 3 - Esper Junk (2-0)
    Game 1 - My opponent sets up Batterskull with SFM, while I hold down the fort with Ooze. My life total this game goes 19-18-19-18-19-20-19-18. His is like a ricter graph - 17-15-14-12-11-6-10-2-9-16 dead. The final turn, he only learns that untapping a KotR with Scryb Ranger does not indeed remove it from combat like it did in 5th Edition rules. That ends up mattering since he didn't block and I can pump knight by nuking my own lands.

    Game 2 - He brings in Gilded Drake to fight my knights. He grabs one pretty early when it's tapped. I simply attack with double exalted Gilded Drake to put him at 10. On his turn, he casts a second Gilded Drake taking my tapped Drake. I point out that he has no blockers now against my KotR, and he scoops.

    Round 4 - Junk Depths (2-0)
    Game 1 - We fight back and forth on Knights with StPs. I stabilize and make sure I don't get blown out with Marit Lage tokens. I swing heavily with a KotR or Terravore to take out large chunks of life at once over 2 turns.

    Game 2 - I remember he was having some mana trouble, so I cut him off green for Knights. I'm at a stable 22 life while he's being pecked to death with Scryb Ranger.

    At this point, most of the LA crew is 3-1 also. Kevin comments that we're bound to play each other now, and I tell him not to jinx it.

    Round 5 - Kevin Long (2-0)
    DAMNIT Kevin, you had to call us being paired after everyone is 3-1. I ask him to scoop so I can win. He no-sirs and asks me to scoop so he can win. I no-sir. Time to play it out. Before we're even sitting down at our seat we agree to a prize split in case the winner is able to reach prizes.

    Game 1 - He gets an early Jin-Gitaxias, but I already started with Noble Hierarch into Gaea's Cradle + GSZ for Ooze, which amazingly resolves. I shred his graveyard after he fails to draw reanimation spells after the first Jin-turn. My beatdown is faster than his Jin and I win this one.

    Kevin didn't draw any FoW that entire game, otherwise this would have been much more difficult.

    Game 2 - He starts off with a Careful Study, while I lead with Savannah-go (with Etutor, StP, KotR in hand). He Thoughtseizes me, and takes the StP and passes the turn without another land. I take the opportunity to tutor up Thorns of Amethyst and lock him down. Wasteland the next turn insures I don't get reanimated, and I win from there fairly easily.

    Round 6 - Bant Aggro (2-1) fake feature match + on camera Game 3
    Game 1 - Three StP will win this game for him. I attempt to fight back, but he has half a turn lead on my Knights with fetchlands and his are larger for mine to block.
    Game 2 - Turn 2 KotR meets no resistance, and on turn 3 he scoops.
    Game 3 - Camera match

    Apparently Liam thought this guy was giving me an attitude, and gets paired up against him the next round. He decides he'll teach him a lesson and goes fora 50-large Grapeshot after Tendril's for 18. The whole time he doesn't scoop and waits for the end of the game. Once Liam showboats him with Grapeshot, he signs the result slip and storms off. Liam rushes over to tell me I'm vindicated, and I reply that I don't know what he's talking about. Liam's visibily embarrassed at this point. Haha good times!

    Round 7 - Big Zoo (2-0) fake feature match

    Another fake feature match so I can't actually tell what people are playing at the top tables. I'm starting to think the whole point of these fake feature matches is to keep you in the dark about what people that are you bracket are playing.

    Game 1 - While shuffling, he reveals Wooded Foothills, and I put him on NO Rug. I think I start off with Noble Hierarch, and he goes for Wild Nacatl. Ok, I'm wrong it's Zoo of some variation. I Waste/StP his threats and keep up pressure. At one point I have a Witness in hand, but need to kill an Ooze from him that is preventing me from getting advantage. I draw another StP to kill him, play my own, and start taking control of the game.

    Game 2 - I stabilize against his threats with Ooze and we fight over lands with Wasteland. He draws a lot of lands, and runs out of gas pretty quickly, while I find a GSZ for a Terravore. Terravore attacks for 18, and when he can't find anythign relevant he scoops.

    Six straight wins is pretty good! I know my tie-breakers are terrible from being at the X-1 bracket all day, and I suspect I can't draw in. Joe Lossett helps me check the math, and I have to play it out. I find I'm against...

    Round 8 - Bant Aggro vs Chris VanMeter (2-1)
    Feature Match

    He's at 5-0-2, and I'm at 6-1. We have to play no matter what. I get good hands in Games 2/3 and manage to squeek out the win.

    Top 8 - Canadian Threshold (1-2)

    This would have been an on-camera match, but at the last moment Glenn switches us with Tony and Harrison. They proceed to punt and cheat the whole match while Jonathan Job and I duke it out in the next table.

    Game 1 - I win the first game when he can't find a real threat early and I have basics without fetching to ignore his Stifle/Wasteland combo. Alright! One down, one to go!

    Game 2 - He starts with Delver turn 1, reveal Spell Snare while I'm on the draw. This one isn't even close. He casts Snapcaster Mage for beatdown, and I chump with a summoning sick Mother of Runes to stem the tide. A second Delver shows up and he has Bolt to clean up.

    Game 3 - All I have to say about this game is my poor decision to keep the following hand:

    Wasteland
    Wasteland
    Karakas
    Gaea's Cradle
    Maze of Ith
    Scavenging ooze
    Stoneforge Mystic

    Ya..... that didn't pan out so well, even if I did give it the old collegiate effort. Them's the breaks.

    I finished the weekend with the deck at 10-2-1, and that's pretty good by any measure.

    We go out to celebrate with more Earl of Sandwiches, and by this time I'm pretty exhausted from playing Magic. I throw down $20 at Roullette and promptly depart with said money. Ya, I think my luck has ran its course today.

    Cheers:
    West Coast Legacy crew - Kevin Long, Ben Perry, Liam Kane, Tony DeVeyra, Caleb Neufield, John Harduvel, Lu Cai
    Earl of Sandwiches - on nom nom nom nom nom into full belly
    Scavenging Ooze - om nom nom nom nom nom nom into victory
    Scryb Ranger - Flying is underrated.
    Star City Games - awesome event series that helps to promote Legacy.

    Jeers:
    Temporal Spring - this card has no business in Legacy. GTFO net deck trash.
    Alexis Park Hotel - no ice machines. what kind of shitty hotel are you with no ice machines?
    Harrison Beach - what a disgraceful Elves player. This should have been infinite warnings for misplaying your deck.

    PS: If I got any of the details wrong, my apoligies. I was borderline drunk the whole time I wasn't playing magic. Let me know if somethign went differently than how I remembered it.
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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Awesome report, but some typos:

    That latter addition was felt justified due to all the tempo decks packing tons of cheap removal. Landing Mother of Runes really throws a wrench into the monkey works that Tempo tries to establish in the early game. I finally settled on this list:

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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    Ben is starting to get buzzed and claims that he is the best source of knowledge for alcohol this side of the Mississippi.
    It was me that said this, not Ben, thus giving the claim even more credibility.

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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Nice finish! I would've have loved to see Maverick go all the way!

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    Finally Maverick finished TOP8 at a Starcitygames Event :)
    Congratulations.
    It's really funny to hear the commentator in your feature match against Bryan Hawley. They don't know anything about Maverick and were saying that they like the position of Bryan Hawley. But you were way ahead. After you landed Scryb, Mother and Knight he probably had no outs in his deck to win this game!

    But I have one questions:

    Why did you board in Chokes against ChrisVanMeter? He was playing Hierarchs, probably Knights to cycle away his Tropicals and Tundras and a Forest. So he's definitely not afraid if you play a Choke. There isn't a card in your Maindeck that's really bad against Bant. Or at least worse than Choke in this Matchup. So in my opinion you made a little mistake in sideboarding.
    Do you agree? Or what do you think?



    Anyways, I am really happy you showed the american crowd that it is possible NOT to play Brainstorm and be succesful :)

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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Excellent report, Jacob!

    It was really great to meet you in Vegas, I wish I could have been sober enough to talk about your matches a little more on Sunday night

    Tom (my brother) ended up finishing 6-2 in 37th with a very similar list. Congratulations on top 8 and thanks again for your highly informative posts in the Maverick thread.

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    ye great read and you wanted to play with force of will lolz
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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Thanks, nice report.

    Questions - Did you ever regret Maze of Ith being side instead of main?

    It looks like Thorn of Amethyst pulled its weight. Did you ever wish the slot was a more specific piece of hate, or was the effect devastating as well as broad?

    Where do you think you would put a 2nd Scryb which you were pondering? by moving eternal witness to side maybe?

    Answer only at your leisure and thanks again.

    I still put a null rod or stony silence in my board, which kills affinity but is nice against storm too so I justify it sorta.

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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    We actually had a short discussion in the Maverick thread about Maze of Ith in the maindeck:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tao View Post
    Did anyone of you ever tutored for Maze in all those games?
    Quote Originally Posted by Philipp2293 View Post
    Yes, when I ran it, I usually tutored for it vs Affinity when facing an equiped Etched Champion. Did cut it though.
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    Never used it in that tournament. Would have been a useful topdeck against Affinity when he had Plating, but most of the time KotR got Wasteland to tempo them out.

    EDIT:
    So I took Maze of Ith out, and ran it again in the tournament. Went 4-0 again. ^_^
    -Thorns is useful from multiple angles: Storm, Landstill, Reanimator, High Tide, Hive Mind, Burn. I like that it can be brought in against a multitude of decks.
    -The second Scryb Ranger will probably replace 1 Sylvan Library. I was not impressed with Sylvan's performance during the tournament. It works better in my home metagame due to all the Rock decks.
    -Null Rod/Stony Silence is pretty good. I haven't worked out my SB strategy to eliminate Equipment yet, so it's still conceptional for my deck at this point.
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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Maybe you could answer my question about Choke,too? xP

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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by schniggaz View Post
    Maybe you could answer my question about Choke,too? xP
    Oh right, glossed over that. It was a mis-board. At the time, I was thinking that I needed to cut off Jace. Typically against jace decks I would bring in Choke. Turns out he was running 3 Jace and 2 Elspeth. I think I only boarded in about 3-4 cards, and was having difficulty isolating the "bad" cards. I might have trimmed 1 QPM, 1 Hierarch, and both Sylvans. The latter didn't seem so good against 4 Spell Snare.
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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Awesome, good answers.

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    Re: 6th at SCG Vegas: Maverick - Cultural Wasteland

    Nice list, nice finish dude!
    Decks that I care about:
    Steel Stompy
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