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    [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $20

    Knight Ware Inc in Studio City, CA is holding a Sanctioned Legacy tournament on Sunday December 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM

    This will be one of our Fixed Prize Legacy events.
    Start time will be 1:00 PM and REL will be Competitive

    Kevin Long (L1) has agreed to head judge
    If anyone else wants to help floor judge, please contact me

    Entry Fee $20 if paid before 12:30 PM (we open at 11 am)
    after 12:30 PM $25
    I have seats / table space for 70 players.
    Please show up early if you can


    Prize Pool
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    2X Tundra (EX)
    2X Force of Will (NM/MINT)
    2X Dark Confidant (1 Russian NM-, 1 EX+ English)
    1X Tropical Island (EX-)
    4X Aether Vial (EX/NM)
    2X Phyrexian Dreadnought (NM)
    1X Tarmogoyf (NM/NM-)
    3X Polluted Delta (2 EX, 1 EX- and signed)
    3X Flooded Strand (all signed 2 EX,. 1 EX+)
    1X DCI Wooded Foothills (NM)
    3X Grim Monolith (EX)
    2X Wasteland (EX)
    1X Jace, the Mind Sculptor (EX+)





    Prizes will be based on attendance
    8-24 people prizes to top 4 only (we may do a swiss + 1 at this level)
    25-32 people prizes to top 8
    33-40 top 9
    41-45 top 10
    46-49 top 10 and 1 random
    50+ top 10 and 2 randoms


    Where
    Knight Ware Inc.
    3709 Cahuenga Blvd. West
    Studio City, CA. 91604
    (818) 769-7830
    http://www.knight-ware.com

    When
    Sunday December 11, 2011
    Store opens at 11 AM
    Registration anytime after that and before 1:00 PM
    (casual play before the tourney is most welcome, bring your EDH, vintage, etc.)
    Tournament at 1:00 PM
    Entry Fee $20 if paid before 12:30 PM (we open at 11 am)
    [b]after 12:30 PM $25


    Format:
    Legacy
    REL is Competitive
    Decklists Required
    8-24 players, we may do a swiss + 1 with no cut
    25-32 players, 5 rounds cut T8
    33-64 players 6 rounds cut T8
    65-71 players 7 rounds cut T8
    first place, first pick, second place, second pick and so on
    WER (Wizards Event Reporter) standings just prior to the cut will be used to determine 3rd/4th and 5th-8th

    Parking
    Parking is the main reason most of our larger events are on Sundays•Behind the store there are numbered spaces.
    Knight Ware has spaces 9, 10, and 11
    but
    on Sundays, 2 of our 3 neighbors are usually closed
    Sun Cafe (spaces 7 and 8 - the ones on either side of the telephone pole)
    is now open on Sunday, please don’t park there

    The streets are metered but not checked on sundays
    The first street to the west of us is Lankersheim Blvd..
    On Lankersheim to the south there is unregulated street parking
    Just west of Lankersheim (north side of the street) is an open lot that says
    additional MTA parking. It does not get used much on the weekends
    unless the hollywood bowl is running something and then there should be signs

    any questions, post, call or email me

    thanks


    Lori Saul
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Looks good to me.

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Get excited! It's happening this weekend!
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Lets see if anyone netdecks a tempo list and goes in blind against storm.

    Also: Needs more Reanimator rants.
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Aggro View Post
    Lets see if anyone netdecks a tempo list and goes in blind against storm.
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Aggro View Post
    Lets see if anyone netdecks a tempo list and goes in blind against storm.

    Also: Needs more Reanimator rants.
    Netdecking as I type.

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Que View Post
    Netdecking as I type.
    Netdecking is so passé. I prefer to find my decklists on the walls of truckstop restrooms scrawled in a mixture of llama feces and red food coloring. That's GerryT's secret.

    I really hope I don't have to work Sunday, so I can play some Reanimator. Is that the kind of rant Goin Aggro's talking about?

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Jakgotbak View Post
    Netdecking is so passé. I prefer to find my decklists on the walls of truckstop restrooms scrawled in a mixture of llama feces and red food coloring. That's GerryT's secret.

    I really hope I don't have to work Sunday, so I can play some Reanimator. Is that the kind of rant Goin Aggro's talking about?
    Antonius' Reanimator rants.
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Aggro View Post
    Antonius' Reanimator unfair.dec rants.
    Fixed.
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Excited for this! I'll be there.

    Anyone got extra Snapcasters for trade? I have good trades.

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    I will have final results up sometime on Monday.

    Curtis Fogle - If you read this or anyone knows him, please contact me asap

    thanks

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Thank you DCI Reporter for pairing me against fair decks all day. If I only mulliganed my hand in Top 4 to something playable, I may have been able to win the whole thing...

    Round 1 - Reanimator (2-1)
    Round 2 - BUG control (2-0)
    Round 3 - UW Snap-blade (2-0)
    Round 4 - Deadguy Pox (2-0)
    Round 5 - ID
    Round 6 - ID

    Top 8 - Speed Zoo (2-0)
    Top 4 - Reanimator (1-2)
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Many thanks to the 53 of you who showed up for this.

    This is the who got what post with meta and decklists to follow at the bottom.
    (Appologies in advance if I mistyped anything)

    Next up for us will be a Store Credit event on 01/08/2012
    and another Duals event on 02/11/2012 (I just need one more Taiga EX ish)


    Location: Knight Ware Inc. Studio City, CA.
    Legacy Staples
    Date: 12/11/2011
    Players: 53

    1st Jack Colwell [Reanimator] got the 2x Tundra’s
    2nd Kou Herr [NO RUG] got the 2x FOW’s
    3rd John Harduvel [Reanimator] got the 3x Delta’s
    4th Jacob Kory [Maverick] got the 3x Strands
    5th Matt Krystall [Forgemaster Combo] got the Trop
    6th Brandon Chang [Zoo] got the 2x Bobs
    7th Arthur Naugle [Pox] got the 2x Wastelands
    8th Andrew Herbelin [Merfolk] got the Goyf
    9th Bryan De La Torre [UW Stoneblade] got the DCI Foothill

    10th Curtis Fogle [UW Stoneblade] Needs to contact me as he did not fill out a slip
    After a couple days, If there is no contact, I will pick for you

    Random 1 went to Casey Hupke
    Random 2 went to Brandon Dieckhoff


    11th Dredge
    12th Mono W Stax
    13th UWR Control
    14th Burn
    15th TES
    16th Elves
    17th Merfolk
    18th Burn
    19th Burn
    20th UW Stoneblade
    21st Death and Taxes
    22nd UW Stoneblade
    23rd Enchantress
    24rd Dredge
    25th Canadian Thresh
    26th BUG Control
    27th Burn
    28th UR Burn
    29th Reanimator
    30th TNT
    31st Belcher
    32nd UR Aggro
    33rd Reanimator
    34th Zenith America
    35th Doomsday
    36th Aggro Loam
    37th Burn
    38th Team America
    39th Death and Taxes
    40th Walker Show (UB)
    41st UW Aggro
    42nd Soul Sisters
    43rd Past in Flames
    44th TES
    45th TES
    46th Elves
    47th Canadian Thresh
    48th Polymorph
    49th UR Tempo
    50th Canadian Thresh
    51st UR Aggro
    52nd Mono Green Aggro
    53rd TNT




    1st Jack Colwell [Reanimator]

    Main Deck
    4 Entomb
    4 Reanimate
    3 Exhume
    3 Animate Dead
    2 Show And Tell
    4 Careful Study
    4 Thoughtseize
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Force Of Will
    3 Daze
    3 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
    1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
    1 Empyrial Archangel
    1 Angel of Despair
    1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
    1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
    4 Polluted Delta
    4 Underground Sea
    2 Swamp
    2 Island
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    2 Flooded Strand
    1 Marsh Flats
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    2 Echoing Truth
    2 Duress
    2 Show And Tell
    3 Pithing Needle
    1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
    1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
    1 Inkwell Leviathan
    1 Blazing Archon
    2 Spell Pierce
    qty: 15




    2nd Kou Herr [NO RUG]

    Main Deck
    1 Forest
    1 Island
    1 Mountain
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    1 Progenitus
    4 Misty Rainforest
    4 Wooded Foothills
    4 Natural Order
    4 Noble Hierarch
    4 Tarmogoyf
    4 Force Of Will
    4 Lightning Bolt
    4 Brainstorm
    3 Daze
    3 Grove of the Burnwillows
    3 Volcanic Island
    3 Tropical Island
    3 Vendilion Clique
    3 Green Sun's Zenith
    3 Punishing Fire
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    2 Ancient Grudge
    2 Submerge
    3 Red Elemental Blast
    3 Surgical Extraction
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    1 Life from the Loam
    1 Thrun, the Last Troll
    1 Kitchen Finks
    qty: 15




    3rd John Harduvel [Reanimator]

    Main Deck
    1 Angel of Despair
    1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
    1 Empyrial Archangel
    1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
    3 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
    1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
    3 Animate Dead
    4 Brainstorm
    3 Daze
    4 Entomb
    4 Force Of Will
    2 Island
    4 Polluted Delta
    3 Scalding Tarn
    2 Swamp
    4 Underground Sea
    2 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Careful Study
    4 Exhume
    3 Ponder
    4 Reanimate
    2 Thoughtseize
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    2 Pithing Needle
    1 Blazing Archon
    1 Inkwell Leviathan
    2 Dispel
    1 Echoing Truth
    3 Spell Pierce
    1 Wipe Away
    3 Show And Tell
    1 Thoughtseize
    qty: 15




    4th Jacob Kory [Maverick]

    Main Deck
    1 Eternal Witness
    4 Knight of the Reliquary
    4 Mother of Runes
    4 Noble Hierarch
    3 Qasali Pridemage
    2 Scavenging Ooze
    2 Scryb Ranger
    3 Stoneforge Mystic
    1 Terravore
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Thrun, the Last Troll
    1 Sylvan Library
    4 Swords To Plowshares
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Batterskull
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    2 Forest
    1 Plains
    2 Horizon Canopy
    2 Misty Rainforest
    4 Savannah
    4 Wasteland
    4 Windswept Heath
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Gaea's Cradle
    1 Karakas
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    1 Sword of Light and Shadow
    1 Thorn of Amethyst
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    2 Ethersworn Canonist
    1 Phyrexian Metamorph
    2 Choke
    2 Enlightened Tutor
    1 Life from the Loam
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Maze Of Ith
    1 Path to Exile
    1 Circle Of Protection: Red
    qty: 15




    5th Matt Krystall [Forgemaster Combo]

    Main Deck
    2 Mountain
    2 Sensei's Divining Top
    4 Great Furnace
    4 Goblin Welder
    4 Metalworker
    4 Grim Monolith
    4 Voltaic Key
    4 Lodestone Golem
    4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
    4 Wasteland
    2 Crucible of Worlds
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 City Of Traitors
    1 Phyrexian Metamorph
    1 Myr Battlesphere
    1 Steel Hellkite
    1 Sundering Titan
    3 Wurmcoil Engine
    2 Mox Opal
    2 Lightning Greaves
    3 Mox Diamond
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    1 Pithing Needle
    2 Phyrexian Revoker
    1 Duplicant
    1 Blood Moon
    4 Chalice of the Void
    3 Trinisphere
    2 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Spine of Ish Sah
    qty: 15




    6th Brandon Chang [Zoo]

    Main Deck
    4 Goblin Guide
    4 Steppe Lynx
    4 Wild Nacatl
    3 Grim Lavamancer
    1 Kird Ape
    2 Qasali Pridemage
    4 Tarmogoyf
    2 Sylvan Library
    4 Lightning Bolt
    3 Lightning Helix
    3 Path to Exile
    3 Price Of Progress
    4 Chain Lightning
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    4 Wooded Foothills
    4 Arid Mesa
    4 Windswept Heath
    2 Taiga
    1 Savannah
    2 Plateau
    1 Plains
    1 Mountain
    1 Forest
    qty: 62

    Sideboard
    3 Ethersworn Canonist
    2 Gaddock Teeg
    1 Ancient Grudge
    4 Red Elemental Blast
    2 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Relic of Progenitus
    2 Surgical Extraction
    qty: 15




    7th Arthur Naugle [Pox]

    Main Deck
    3 Dark Ritual
    4 Hymn To Tourach
    2 Mox Diamond
    2 Swords To Plowshares
    4 Smallpox
    4 Bloodghast
    4 Dark Confidant
    4 Pox
    4 Stoneforge Mystic
    2 Thoughtseize
    1 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Entomb
    1 Batterskull
    1 Sword of Feast and Famine
    4 Swamp
    1 Wasteland
    2 Urborg
    4 Flagstones of Trokair
    4 Scrubland
    3 Fetid Heath
    4 Marsh Flats
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    2 Imp's Mischief
    1 Cabal Therapy
    1 Entomb
    1 Purify the Grave
    1 Marrow Shards
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    1 Swords To Plowshares
    1 Engineered Explosives
    1 Crucible of Worlds
    1 Gate To Phyrexia
    1 Sinkhole
    1 Marsh Casualties
    1 Extirpate
    1 Surgical Extraction
    qty: 15




    8th Andrew Herbelin [Merfolk]

    Main Deck
    4 AEther Vial
    4 Cursecatcher
    4 Coralhelm Commander
    4 Lord Of Atlantis
    4 Silvergill Adept
    2 Phantasmal Image
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    4 Daze
    2 Dismember
    2 Skaab Ruinator
    4 Merrow Reejerey
    4 Force Of Will
    13 Island
    4 Mutavault
    4 Wasteland
    qty: 60

    Sideboard
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    2 Spell Pierce
    2 Surgical Extraction
    2 Echoing Truth
    1 Dismember
    2 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
    2 Sower of Temptation
    3 Submerge
    qty: 15
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Thanks for a great tournament, Lori and Kevin.

    I almost audibled to UW Stoneforge, but thankfully I stuck with old faithful Reanimator.

    Round 1 - Some variety of UBr Storm - 2-0
    Round 2 - UR Past in Flames - 2-0
    Round 3 - Mono-Red Burn - 2-1 (including an epic mull to 2 in game 1) EDIT: I originally said 2-0 for this round. Whoops.
    Round 4 - Reanimator - 1-2
    Round 5 - UW Stoneblade - 2-1
    Round 6 - Dredge - 2-0

    Top 8 - Merfolk - 2-1
    Top 4 - Maverick - 2-1
    Finals - NO RUG - 2-1

    By now, I would've expected more decks tooled to beating Reanimator. There were an awful lot of people either running UR Delver b/c it just won a StarCity or Burn to beat up on UR and RUG delver lists. I'm not sure how many events are going to fold to Combo and Reanimator before people realize that our local metagame is not the StarCity metagame. But as long as this keeps up, I'll be happy to keep making fatties on turn 2.
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Jakgotbak View Post
    Thanks for a great tournament, Lori and Kevin.

    I almost audibled to UW Stoneforge, but thankfully I stuck with old faithful Reanimator.

    Round 1 - Some variety of UBr Storm - 2-0
    Round 2 - UR Past in Flames - 2-0
    Round 3 - Mono-Red Burn - 2-0 (including an epic mull to 2 in game 1)
    Round 4 - Reanimator - 1-2
    Round 5 - UW Stoneblade - 2-1
    Round 6 - Dredge - 2-0

    Top 8 - Merfolk - 2-1
    Top 4 - Maverick - 2-1
    Finals - NO RUG - 2-1

    By now, I would've expected more decks tooled to beating Reanimator. There were an awful lot of people either running UR Delver b/c it just won a StarCity or Burn to beat up on UR and RUG delver lists. I'm not sure how many events are going to fold to Combo and Reanimator before people realize that our local metagame is not the StarCity metagame. But as long as this keeps up, I'll be happy to keep making fatties on turn 2.
    There's four Reanimator decks out of a pile of 50 some decks which also includes four Stoneblade decks, six Storm decks, two dredge, and a bunch of more random archetypes. There's a undeniably diverse meta, and you'll lose if you prepare for just two or three archetypes.

    I don't build my board and deck for what I expect to see at the top tables, I build it so I have the best chance to deal with as many big threats as possible. This means that I'm not dropping eight slots on graveyard hate.

    Also, if you haven't realized already, the average real combo player in the LA meta is a metric shit-ton better than the average combo player anywhere else. (Short Bryan Cook, who is by no means average)

    Events in LA will fold to Reanimator and Combo because a lot of people (Twelve year old kids) don't have as much experience with their decks to deal with the power level that Storm, TNT, and Reanimator bring to the table. They'll put the necessary sideboard or MB cards in, but it takes so much experience to know when and how to actually drop and use them versus good, really good, players.
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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Aggro View Post
    There's a undeniably diverse meta, and you'll lose if you prepare for just two or three archetypes.

    Also, if you haven't realized already, the average real combo player in the LA meta is a metric shit-ton better than the average combo player anywhere else. (Short Bryan Cook, who is by no means average)

    (Twelve year old kids)
    A few months ago, if you did not have a plan to beat Cephalid Breakfast, there was no way for you to win an event, and there was effectively one person in the meta who played Breakfast. If you didn't plan your deck to be able to beat him, you didn't have a realistic shot to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krieg View Post
    15th TES
    16th Elves
    23rd Enchantress
    30th TNT
    31st Belcher
    35th Doomsday
    43rd Past in Flames
    44th TES
    45th TES
    46th Elves
    48th Polymorph
    53rd TNT
    Either the average combo player in LA is terrible (believable), or the environment is hostile to combo (also believable).

    And just because a 12 year old made top eight, doesn't mean you can start making generalizations about the meta based on 1 appearance by a kid at a Knightware event.

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    Re: [Los Angeles, CA] Sunday December 11, 2011 Knight Ware Inc. Tundras, FOW's, ... $

    10th Curtis Fogle [UW Stoneblade] Needs to contact me as he did not fill out a slip
    I know a Curtis, he might be a Fogle. I'll get in contact with him, to see if he's a Fogle, and if he is, to get in contact with you.

    Reanimator huh?


    EDIT:
    And just because a 12 year old made top eight, doesn't mean you can start making generalizations about the meta based on 1 appearance by a kid at a Knightware event.
    And the fact that he's a 12 year old kid that top eighted, so he's not your average 12 year old, and so shouldn't be generalized.


    EDIT:
    Ok, he's not picking up so I sent him a text. Mutual friend said he is a Fogle though.
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