One of the few times I've played Dredge recently they had Leyline of Sanctity in game two. I bounced it and killed them.
I was joking about Rifter and Leyline Aggro. Just being passive-aggressive about the content of the opening post.
Has anyone played an event with Bryant's new sideboard yet? I'm interested to hear any stories where it turned out better or worse than his previous list.
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Bryant, why not 3 Inquistion and 1 Duress in the board so you can Burning Wish for discard and still hit Force of Will?
There's 8 maindeck cards that hit Force of Will. I want the best chance of discarding a turn two Gaddock Teeg/Thalia, meaning four Inquisition in the sideboard. How often do you actually Burning Wish -> Duress AND target Force of Will. It's slim. You'll want that extra percentage of discarding a hatebear against Maverick more often than you'll want to Burning Wish -> Duress a Force of Will.
I used to board in bounce, but less and less lists are actually boarding anything relevant in besides Firestorm. If they ever do go turn one Leyline, Ad Nauseam, play everything, Past in Flames, play everything, Empty the Warrens, upkeep Silence.
I've tested the new sideboard. It's been good.
I love how people keep posting ideas like I haven't thought of 95% of them already. I put a LOT of thought into every change I make, probably more than most people think. If you're going to post something, please make it insightful.
I've played a lot of UB Ant and since switching to TES I've never encountered the same problems with AdN killing me. Also my local scene is infested with UW mystic, if I have to cut pyroblast I need something I can hit Fow.
You have access to 12 cards that shut down FoW without lifeloss, those 12 being silence, orim's chant, and duress. If that isn't enough, I don't know how to help you. 8 protection spells is often enough to push through your combo, and if not you can board up to 11 protection spells.
The lifeloss from thoughtseize does matter. I fizzled when I cast ad nauseam at 19 life on turn 1, and I fizzled out and died the next turn due to not hitting enough mana. Every point of life matters a lot in this deck.
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Originally Posted by Vacrix
Well it's a metagame call then. I'm not sure if it's still correct though.
TES doesn't die too often to Ad Nauseam, it's one of the beautiful things about the deck. However, if you start incorporating cards like Thoughtseize these odds of killing yourself increase. A healthy Metagame has decks like RUG, UR, Burn, Maverick, etc... that make the life total more valuable.
Jajajaja. Went X-1 at my LGS tonight.
Beat MUD 2-1.
Beat UR Delver 2-1.
Lost Maverick 0-2.
Beat Tezzeret Control (with Chalice, 3sphere, etc.) 2-0.
I was playing with Pyroblasts, sadly. I killed one Trinket Mage that's it, pretty useless.
Maverick won the die roll and played turn one mom. All I did was stare at the fucking Duress in my hand as he played turn two Thalia. Infest wiped the board, but I quickly get eaten by two huge knights. Game three, I mull to five and lose.
UR Delver was just a race. Game one, I made 18 goblins. Game two, I won via Past in Flames.
Against the Chalice/3sphere decks, Echoing Truth was king.
Jajajaja.
Isn't Virtue's Ruin better than Infest against hatebears?
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If you fail to explain the reason behind your choice, technically, it's the wrong choice.
Zerk Thread -- Really, fun deck! ^^
Out of curiousity Bryant.
How do you see the % number for the matchup analisys in your primer.
Some of them look pretty strange to me:
i.e: Goblins 70%, Zoo 75% while CB Top or Team America is even 50%.
To me it looks like the aggro matchup is to pessimistig while the aggro-control/control matchup is too optimistic. And in general very optimistic: having such an edge over the field should make TES a permanent DTB contender...
Did you think about this percentages you against the random opponent you face or you against someone else similar skilled in his own deck/legacy?
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The percentages are pretty much right on. Each percentage could be plus or minus 5% based on list variation seeing as not every player plays the stock list. Countertop isn't as bad as people think, Team America isn't either since lists have moved away from Hymn to Tourach. TES doesn't actually have that hard of a time with blue decks, blue players really over estimate their combo match-up and get blown out a majority of the time. The deck isn't afraid of Force of Will.
I base my percentages based on past events, testing, and scenarios.
You also have to take into account some things that add/subtract variance from those %'s that, while important when you play any deck, are really important for combo decks. Pilot skill, mulligan skill and sometimes just what your deck hands you off the top on a given day can matter a lot. There's also the fact that storm in general and TES besides are not very popular decks. I'd say Bryants numbers aren't unrealistic by any means. I don't think I sit down from anybody (well...besides the douchebag that insists that stax is a real deck) with TES and think "I'm a dog" in this matchup.
More than any of that though, it's a %. 85% of them are made up.
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That's the standard automatic answer, what I want to say is that with one seize and 3 Iok the 2 life matters only when you open with your seize against hatebear.deck , but this one seize on SB matters always when BW to a Protec. It's a matter of testing and seeing what situation is more common and relevant.. I would put my chips on being the BW -> Protec one but I did not played enought pos-SB matchs against Maverick with IoK SB plan.
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