[Deck] MUD (Metalworker)

[Zorker]

@Bonk thanks for sharing the list, while it's similar to mine i still got some new idea to try.

[Bonk]

my new step will be to test 3 ensnaring bridge in my side. I'don't know what to cut for the moment, but perhaps it will help for elf matchup, and reanimator which is very very fast.

@Zorker : let me informed of your new tests. I"m interested

[Dirk Mantooth]

Has anyone tried Candelabra of Tawnos in the Cloudpost versions of MUD? I realize it's hella expensive, but it seems absolutely amazing. It even fixes its own problem with turn one Chalice, since you can first cast the Candelabra and use the mana floating to untap your sol land. A friend of mine possesses one at the moment and I'm going to shove it into the deck for a weekly tournament tonight. Whether it's good or bad, I hope I draw it a bunch to find out!

[Howishotgun]

Has anyone tried Candelabra of Tawnos in the Cloudpost versions of MUD? I realize it's hella expensive, but it seems absolutely amazing. It even fixes its own problem with turn one Chalice, since you can first cast the Candelabra and use the mana floating to untap your sol land. A friend of mine possesses one at the moment and I'm going to shove it into the deck for a weekly tournament tonight. Whether it's good or bad, I hope I draw it a bunch to find out!

I personally dont like that idea. You should be building the deck to play around chalice for 1. If you want to use the candles you might as well just turn it into 12 post/Turbo Eldrazi

[darkghost]

A MUD-post deck made it to 2nd place at an SCG Open on 4/13.
I am surprised as this is the highest I've seen a MUD player rank on SCG invitational.
Here is the List:

Creatures (19)

1 Blightsteel Colossus
4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Metalworker
3 Sundering Titan
3 Wurmcoil Engine

Planeswalkers (2)

2 Karn Liberated

Lands (24)

4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Vesuva
4 Wasteland

Spells (15)

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
2 Staff Of Domination
1 Staff of Nin
4 Trinisphere

Sideboard

1 Batterskull
3 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Powder Keg
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Spine of Ish Sah
1 Trading Post
1 Duplicant
3 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Platinum Emperion
2 All Is Dust

Things to note from this list:
- No Lightning Greaves and 3 Sundering Titans, more prison based
- No Cavern of Souls or Summoning Trap
- 3 Ensnaring Bridge SB
- 1/1 split between Powder Keg and Ratchet Bomb (with 2 A.i.D)
- Trading Post shows up again

[Bonk]

this is spano's list except for the sideboard

[darkghost]

Anybody else playing Spano's list? How is it doing for you?

[Bonk]

what does trading post is use for ?

[Esper3k]

04/13? This list wasn't at this past SCG Open...

[darkghost]

My bad, was an invitational qualifiers.

http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckd...ion=Show+Decks

[Fry]

what does trading post is use for ?

I've used Trading Post to save myself from a Grim Lavamancer, sac Sundering Titan without needing Forgemaster (I currently don't play a Welder build) get back Wurmcoils, sac Spine of Ish Sah without needing the Forgemaster, draw cards, chump blocker. It's versatile, perhaps not as much as some other cards, or as powerful in a vacuum as many (which, let's be honest, is most of what is MUD), but it does have some great uses.

[Souleater734]

Anybody else playing Spano's list? How is it doing for you?

I've been playing a list similar to Spano's since January https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGmy...5902435784EA71. The player with this list placed 17th at GP DC and his 75 is extremely close to spano's (I believe they are in the same play group). It's been going pretty well, the deck has a pretty good match up against combo across the board. Contrary to popular belief the deck doesn't have the best match up against delver, it is very winnable you just have to play around daze and sometimes wasteland is an issue but with a little luck and knowledge of the match up it's fine. The cloudpost engine is great against any deck without wasteland and really pulls it's weight against something like miracles or stoneblade. Counterspells can be an issue if the just have everything and you're just drawing dead but that usually isn't the case. The deck is not really a forgemaster deck and usually wins with something like sundering titan under 3sphere or wurmcoil just being bigger than anything. The only complaint I've had so far is that any sort of 12post mirror, whether MUD post or 12post, is abysmal, but those aren't very common so it's not that big of a deal. You also sometimes have double vesuva draws but there are mulligans for a reason so a lot of the times it's not that bad.

[Howishotgun]

I've used Trading Post to save myself from a Grim Lavamancer, sac Sundering Titan without needing Forgemaster (I currently don't play a Welder build) get back Wurmcoils, sac Spine of Ish Sah without needing the Forgemaster, draw cards, chump blocker. It's versatile, perhaps not as much as some other cards, or as powerful in a vacuum as many (which, let's be honest, is most of what is MUD), but it does have some great uses.

Could explain a little bit more, wondering what match ups its worth bringing in

[Zorker]

Tournament report: 14 people with top8


Nic fit(white splash)-0 Mud-2

1) what can you say to 2nd turn Sundewring titan, 3rd turn sundering titan, 4th turn sundeting titan
2) i kept a decent and but qasali and recurring nightmare shenanigans
3) chalice at 1, trinisphere, lodestone golem i win


BUG-2 Mud-1

1) i win by locking him out
2) i was winning but i made a mistake, with forgemaster i should have taken blightsteel colossus and not sundering titan
3) liliana ultimate

Canadian-2 Mud-1
i was mana flooded all the time, except the one game i won

Mono red-1 Mud 2

Nuff said Challice,trinisphere, and wurmcoil sealed the deal


Top 8

Bug Planeswalkers-2 Mud

1) he wins by ultimating lili
2) he won by ensnaring bridge, not before i killed liliana by attackin her with metalworkers.

[Mockingbird]

So two MUD-Post variants placed in the same MTGO Daily this week.

in5ano (4-0)
//Lands:
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Vesuva
4 Wasteland

//Creatures: 13
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 Lodestone Golem
3 Steel Hellkite
2 Sundering Titan
3 Wurmcoil Engine

//Artifacts: 21
1 Batterskull
2 Bottled Cloister
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
2 Tangle Wire
2 Thran Dynamo
4 Trinisphere
2 Voltaic Key

//Planeswalkers: 2
2 Karn Liberated

//Sideboard: 15
2 All Is Dust
3 Ensnaring Bridge
3 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Platinum Angel
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Spine of Ish Sah
2 Tormod's Crypt


SuperSnuGnu (3-1)
//Lands: 24
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Vesuva
4 Wasteland

//Creatures: 19
1 Blightsteel Colossus
4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Metalworker
3 Sundering Titan
3 Wurmcoil Engine

//Artifacts: 16
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Grim Monolith
1 Lightning Greaves
2 Staff of Domination
1 Staff of Nin
4 Trinisphere

//Planeswalkers: 2
2 Karn Liberated

//Sideboard: 15
1 Batterskull
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Summoning Trap
1 Trading Post

Source:https://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digita.../tourn/7008933

What interests me is the that the first MUD deck is the version that doesn't play Metalworker or Kuldotha Forgemaster. Which, while risky, I've gotten some decent results with that version before. Personally, I just like the explosive power of Metalworker a lot though, so I tend to stick to him.

[darkghost]

Interesting, 2 lists, 1 Greaves in total. Seems like Sleight was going in a good direction with cutting Greaves for the Karnfather.

[Sleight]

I have actually been using karn in place of my two staff of nin I had. I'm still not sure how I feel about him. Since there is no deck manipulation for him, I feel like he could be something better. Still like watching him hit the field and be a threat they weren't ready to see.

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[J-Funk]

Can anyone explain to me the purpose of the single Batterskull I've been seeing in a lot of sideboards? I can't really figure out what matchups it would come in against, especially as only a 1-of.

[Secretly.A.Bee]

Well, if you play phyrexian metamorph, copying an opponents sfm will allow you to search for it.

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[darkghost]

I'm guessing it is used against decks which side in humility, it makes a difference in a mirror without batterskull, helpful against multiple Ichorids making use of that lifelink+vigilance quite well, forces TNN+Batterskull to block Wurmcoil+Batterskull and Wurmcoil survives, and in situations where Wurmcoil Engine isn't enough (Mirran Crusader or Thalia + Batterskull, and the likes)?