I'll give Avacyn one thing: after almost ten years, it gives Worldslayer a purpose.
YOU'RE GIVING ME A TIME MACHINE IN ORDER TO TREAT MY SLEEP DISORDER.
Ultimately not that big a deal in Legacy. There's way more betterer things to Reanimate; any format which skirts destroy effects in favor of exile effects will just laff.
EDH is another story, it'll be just silly to poop this thing out with Kaalia and then blow up the planet. House rules aside, there's nothing implicit about "no LD", there's plenty of EDH decks that genuinely go broken in the first few turns, and honestly in my experience Kaalia.dec could use a hand when it comes to the resilience factor. There's a handful of big dumb Angels that already give target permanent indestructible, so for there to be one big blanket indestructible effect will add another layer of protection to that frail little 2/2 Kaalia, which I can dig.
Lets hope that the big bad demon in this set has protection from white, which might actually make it playable.
It will probably be a generic demon with some shitty drawback.Originally Posted by Malchar
Expect something bigger with an even shittier drawback.
I really hate the design of Avacyn. In EDH its an extremely boring card, not really good but annyoing as fuck. Thus anyone playing it will be hated out and rightly so.
Generic Demon # 23
7BBBBBBB
Creature - Demon
Flying
During your Upkeep, burn your hand and throw your cards into the trash. Otherwise, * kicks you in the balls.
6/6
Sad, but true.
I wish there were more cheap, playable demons or at least some with a more manageable alternative costs like Tombstalker.
I'm also kinda puzzled that we haven't seen a single Demon Knight yet, which has so much potential to be awesome. Instead, we got several zombie knights.
Nah, it needs to be big. Like 13/13 or something. Impressive. Don't forget some impressively shitty ability. Like "whenever a player rants about how ridiculously bad ~'s design is put a creature token onto the battlefield that's a copy of ~. Slap that player in the face. Twice.
On a more serious note: I hope we get some cool cards in this set, that are not fatties.
Demon Knights would make some of the kids go crazy over the "awesomeness" factor. A knight that is a demon. And is emo. And sparkles. And likes high school girls. And is part vampire.
Blah art. Looks like Taylor Momsen.
Sounds like the entire band KISS.
The art is about as bland and uninspiring as you can get.
Oh look... another angel...
I'm still hoping for Scavenging Ooze in this set.
ROFLMFAO
REAL vampires don't F'n sparkle.
On that note, I would love to see a Demon Knight. Naturally.
What an insane amount of hating, flaming and whining in this thread over nothing really. I think it is a pretty cool card.
I am pretty glad that Avacyn is monowhite pure holy angelic protector of innocent small people. It feels like returning home after a long trip filled with Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Chancellor of the Annex, Iona, Shield of Emeria and other not-so-white monstrosities. And Wizards could've spoil it all withemo goth angel-demon shit, but they didn't.
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Guess they couldnt make the angel be a zealotry fascist extemist like Elesh Norn is. Thought I wonder if avacyn will persecute the vampires, werewolves and zombies now that she is free from the helvault.
You know how Maro sometimes mentions that not every card is designed for every player? We're Legacy players. We're looking for cheap, powerful effects (Brainstorm, Mongoose, etc.) and game-changers (Emrakul, Ad Nauseam, etc.). Obviously Avacyn is neither of these. She's intended to excited kitchen table players, and she's doing a good job of that. Let's just wait patiently for some cards that *are* for us. And remember that each set can only support a few Eternal-viable cards without upsetting Wizards' more popular and lucrative formats.
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Yeah, my thoughts too. I think she got great flavor and brilliant artwork. Ironically enough she'll probably only see play in decks (even in casual) that can cheat her out, which would mean black aka the color she was made by Sorin to defend humanity against. :-SI am pretty glad that Avacyn is monowhite pure holy angelic protector of innocent small people. It feels like returning home after a long trip filled with Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Chancellor of the Annex, Iona, Shield of Emeria and other not-so-white monstrosities. And Wizards could've spoil it all with
Aside from Elesh Norn's -2/-2 being somewhat questionable (though fitting of the block it was printed in), I'm not sure what's 'not-so-white' about those dudes. If anything most white creatures get the short end of the stick by trying to just be combat-relevant; the ever-present 2/2 for WW with some ability are by and large just shitty copies of each other than are marginally useful as metagame cards at best. If anything there should be MORE dudes like Iona or Chancellor, just on a smaller scale. Like, you know, Thalia :/I am pretty glad that Avacyn is monowhite pure holy angelic protector of innocent small people. It feels like returning home after a long trip filled with Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Chancellor of the Annex, Iona, Shield of Emeria and other not-so-white monstrosities. And Wizards could've spoil it all with
At any rate, I like Avacyn in EDH as a Kaalia toy, but I don't see much else coming of it. +1 for Tao for correctly pointing out a disproportionate amount of nerd-rage for one spoiled card; looks like the set's ruined guys!
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