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    EDH general dies.

    I noticed that on gatherer is a small change in wording.

    For example Child of alara:

    When Child of Alara dies, destroy all nonland permanents. They can't be regenerated.

    Previous wording was mentioning entering the graveyard. Now it simply dies.

    Question:
    If I decide to put child into the graveyard the ability will surely trigger. What if I decide to put it into Command zone?

    Similar question for all Legendary creatures which trigger their ability "when dies". Keiga and all Kamigawa dragons...

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    Re: EDH general dies.

    "dies" is a direct analog of "when [this card] is put into the graveyard from the battlefield"

    http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...ly/feature/144

    I'm not all up on how EDH replacement effects work but what ever worked previously under those rules should work work the same way with the new wording. It's merely a templating change. From what I remember moving to the command zone is a replacement effect, you chose if you want your general to go to graveyard or the "throne" instead, since it never goes to the graveyard it should not trigger triggers that require the card to go to the graveyard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wirrsturm View Post
    I'm not all up on how EDH replacement effects work but what ever worked previously under those rules should work work the same way with the new wording. It's merely a templating change. From what I remember moving to the command zone is a replacement effect, you chose if you want your general to go to graveyard or the "throne" instead, since it never goes to the graveyard it should not trigger triggers that require the card to go to the graveyard.
    Yep, you actually have to let your Child go to the graveyard to trigger it's ability. Command zone doesn't work

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    Re: EDH general dies.

    Yep, "dies" is just more of the foofy shorthand WotC has been adding to the game the last few years. It doesn't functionally change anything.
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    Re: EDH general dies.

    So it reflects the situation as we usually play it and it reflects the fact that new wording is terrible.

    Thanks.

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    Re: EDH general dies.

    Slightly n00b question. I can choose to have my general goto the GY as opposed to the "commander zone", If so can they then be reanimated?

    I interpreted the rule as they hit the yard and then it is removed from the game into the "commander zone". Which sounds silly now that I have typed it out...
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    Re: EDH general dies.

    If the general should be put into graveyard you can choose whether it enters the graveyard, or is put into commander zone.

    Once the choice is made, general hits the zone of your choice and all related abilities trigger.

    For now there is no ability which triggers when the creature enters "commander zone".

    If you choose graveyard with Child of alara, ability will trigger, table flushed and child wil remain in grave until reanimated (for example).

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    Re: EDH general dies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Offler View Post
    If you choose graveyard with Child of alara, ability will trigger, table flushed and child wil remain in grave until reanimated (for example).
    Excellent TY!
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