[GP] Atlanta (Legacy format)

[sdematt]

Mind you, 10 cards also include incidental hate.

Sure you can win through 10 hate cards, but that's also because most people keep a hand that includes hate and nothing else, and consider it a keep. It has to be a hand with/without the hate, as well.

-Matt

[Sloshthedark]

Don't know about epic, but it was certainly righteous.

Extractions in ANT? he deserved it

[Brot_Ohne_Kruste]

No. It can't. Dredge and Belcher are just not interesting, fun or interactive. Game one vs. dredge is a complete bore, there's little interaction ... the dredge player just blows you out or fizzles. It's not interesting, I've played the match 100's of times. It's not. Combat is rarely interesting, the stack is rarely interesting. The deck is just what it is ... a cheap way to compete in legacy (same with vintage). If everyone played it the parts would get banned because of the mass exodus of players.

I think both decks are interesting and fun. Interactive on the other hand, especially game one, is an issue, that's right. Both decks are pretty streamlined, Belcher even more than Dredge. But in my opinion this isn't bad at all because these strategies are a part of Magic. They may be unfair in certain situations and not fun for the opponent, but doing unfair things is so much fun; at least for me :). Unfortunately I think the debate about fun and unfun is a moot point. I, for one, would pick Dredge any day in both formats. Not because of financial reason - I'm able to buy easily into any deck, if I want -, but because I love this deck so much :). And yes, I even played other decks in both formats.

GG. Nice Extractions, brah.

You nicely punished his arrogance :D.

[nedleeds]

First off. In Flames is fucking beast. Second. My basic point is that the game would die if 1/2 the field played those two decks. It just would no longer be an interesting CCG. Or likely if it got to the point where they were dominant enough strategies to merit that type of show, then bannings would occur to prevent the death of the format.

[cdr]

Here's Dan's Team America deck tech in case anyone missed it: http://www.gatheringmagic.com/richca...acy-deck-tech/

[Michael Keller]

I don't think anyone really cared about dredge, but people cared a lot about reanimator and the cards that are good against reanimator are even better vs dredge. Dredge was an awful call for that tournament, I think Martell even mentioned that in his video beforehand.

Although I didn't attend, any player playing Dredge that knows how to play it properly could power through the first day by crushing bad opponents and erratic, porous sideboarding strategies. It really isn't that hard if your sideboard is up to par, either.

The variance and poor siding/mulligans probably just knocked off the bad Dredge players early - which they deserved and was probably a large reason why they didn't make it to the top tables.