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    New Cheap Cascade Dude

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    From the beginnings of the PlanceChase spoiler: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showt...=416459&page=2

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    Whoa. Ancestral Vision made a new best friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorpidNinja View Post
    Whoa. Ancestral Vision made a new best friend.
    Honestly, the other no-cc suspend cards (Living End,Wheel of Fate and Hypergenesis) are probably more worthwhile..e.g.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Very cute. But not the ideal colors for it. Yes you get Confidant and Snaps... and no way to win the game.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by TorpidNinja View Post
    Whoa. Ancestral Vision made a new best friend.
    Ya I agree with others, you're purposely not playing Brainstorm/Ponder and other good spells do you can Cascade into +3 cards? How will the deck work in the face of Wasteland. I don't see the role this plays yet, outside of odd Suspend decks like Hypergenesis.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Wtf is Planechase anyway?

    EDIT: Bleh, it's designed for EDH right? And this card is supposed to get Eternal players to buy the set or what? Like Scavenging Ooze...
    One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trivial_matters View Post
    Wtf is Planechase anyway?
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirrislegend View Post
    Very cute. But not the ideal colors for it. Yes you get Confidant and Snaps... and no way to win the game.
    That's why I think you splash a third color, either Red or Green. Red will give you burn for reach (maybe even including Grim Lavamancer) to go along with your Delver onslaught, and Green gives you Tarmogoyf and possibly Mongoose as strong beaters. Also don't forget that Tombstalker is a legitimate threat. This card slots right into U/B/x tempo lists.

    Of course, it will also probably give Hypergenesis a bit more consistency too.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    This guy looks very strong. I see it being very close to the level of Snapcaster Mage.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Jander78 View Post
    This guy looks very strong. I see it being very close to the level of Snapcaster Mage.
    It only lacks Flash to be on the Snapcaster level. The interaction with Ancestral Visions is cool, but limiting the number of 1cc Counterspells is a real pain. A UB deck that wants this will just play 4 Snapcaster and 4 Confidant.

    On the other side, this card readily splashes into Suspend decks. 4 UB, 4 Ardent Plea, 4 Show and Tell are already 12 blue cards along with FOW.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Jander78 View Post
    This guy looks very strong. I see it being very close to the level of Snapcaster Mage.
    Snapcaster Mage has the advantage of being more selective, although it also depends on your deck design.

    But still:
    - it's a 2/2 for 2 mana that provides guaranteed card advantage
    - it pitches to FoW

    It certainly is strong, especially in a format with such powerful 1cc options.

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    That doesn't sound too bad at all.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Jander78 View Post
    This guy looks very strong. I see it being very close to the level of Snapcaster Mage.
    This is the way I looked at him when he was spoiled: you loose Flash and splash-ability for extra toughness and a way more aggressive ability. I'm ecstatic with playing a body and getting a Vision as a bonus. I'm just as happy to get a Brainstorm, a Duress effect (Cabal Therapy would be great) some kind of flexible removal (in the event you don't have a ready target), or even a Delver.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    The real question is what creature type(s) he has. If he's a wizard, he'll have great synergy with Riptide Laboratory. Hell if he's a merfolk or even a zombie it would be somewhat relevant too.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by TorpidNinja View Post
    This is the way I looked at him when he was spoiled: you loose Flash and splash-ability for extra toughness and a way more aggressive ability. I'm ecstatic with playing a body and getting a Vision as a bonus. I'm just as happy to get a Brainstorm, a Duress effect (Cabal Therapy would be great) some kind of flexible removal (in the event you don't have a ready target), or even a Delver.
    Cabal Therapy sounds fantastic, I'm really looking forward to this card.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    edit: at 3 mana, this guy is unlikely to see much serious Legacy play. ignore all my previous excitement.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Cabal Therapy sounds fantastic, I'm really looking forward to this card.
    It sure does.

    How limited is the printing of this thing, though? Maybe it becomes the next Scavenging Ooze, price-wise.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    It sure does.

    How limited is the printing of this thing, though? Maybe it becomes the next Scavenging Ooze, price-wise.
    I hope not. If he is released as a singleton in only one of the decks, I am preordering 4 right away. WotC dropped the ball on getting Ooze reprinted in a timely fashion. This guy I feel is even better, and I'm generally one to remain skeptical of newly spoiled cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surging Chaos View Post
    The real question is what creature type(s) he has. If he's a wizard, he'll have great synergy with Riptide Laboratory. Hell if he's a merfolk or even a zombie it would be somewhat relevant too.
    If it's a Faerie, we have a new competitive deck.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Awaclus View Post
    If it's a Faerie, we have a new competitive deck.
    There have only be 4 faerie creatures ever printed without Flying. If this had Flying it would be insane.
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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    Might be able to make Hypergenesis a legitimate deck. You can cascade into this card off Violent Eruption (and other cards), but obviously, you will eventually cascade into Hypergenesis when you cast this off hypergenesis.

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    Re: New Cheap Cascade Dude

    In response to your attack step, Bituminous Blast --> Bloodbraid Elf --> Ardent Plea --> UB Guy -- > Brainstorm

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