General question:
Is it worth bringing in reactive creature removal vs. Dredge (i.e. Echoing Truth or Wrath of God), outside of Swords to Plowshares?
On the positive side, you can bounce a lot of Zombies (or Goblins if you face Empty the Warrens).
On the negative side, if you have to cast Echoing Truth or Wrath of God, you are already losing and they have most likely Cabal Therapied you a few times (removing your Echoing Truth or creating new Zombie tokens off the Bridge from Below trigger, which is below your Echoing Truth on the stack).
Discussion?
It's only a short-term solution to a bigger threat..but I think it's decent at that. Bouncing Narcomoeba(s) will often buy a turn. Bouncing several tokens for sure does. Depending on what deck you're playing, that might be all you need to stabilize.
Since Dredge plays a very special kind of Magic, almost every deck will have cards maindeck that are worse than Dredge in that Matchup. The only time I wouldn't bring in Truth would be me playing a faster or equally fast combo deck than Dredge.
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depends what are you playing and what are you expecting, I have Chain of Vapored Ichorid few time ftw. bouncing 2 moebas after draw is devastating, zombies are obvious target, but you won't likely have it in hand by that time
well last time I played against dredge we had 9 turns in the match overall, I won 2-1 and he was the one with 1st turn kill (while I had FTK in hand too, sad) ... I won't list LED dredge under aggro anymore
I was referring to LED Dredge. I'm assuming that is the performing version?
I like what you've added to the discussion here. Super valuable to the process.
Echoing truth is a card I recently removed from my board(s) in SnT and BUG control. I did run it as a 2 spot for a while in both, but I don't feel that I really need it anymore. Id rather have soft counters to just stop the cabals/returns/leds thats just personal preference and its worked out for me thus far.
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